This episode is the second in a new series called "Forming a J-Curve Community," based on Part 5 of Paul's book, J-Curve: Dying and Rising with Jesus in Everyday Life.

"Behind every faction, there's some idol in the center. A tribe is always centered around something that it is worshipping."

"You don't get at power by seeking it – you get at power by losing it, just like Jesus did."

"Paul is deliberately weakening himself. He's leaving space for the spirit. When I lead with weakness then I'm a person of prayer because I don't know what to do. This is Proverbs: the heart of wisdom is knowing you don't have it."