This episode is the fourth in a new series called "Forming a J-Curve Community," based on Part 5 of Paul's book, J-Curve: Dying and Rising with Jesus in Everyday Life.

"The 'health and wealth' gospel has come out of an environment where we have taught justification without the J-Curve. The health and wealth gospel is basically that Jesus is for me, and that prayer is a way to power."

"If you teach grace without living a cruciform life of dying love then you are creating cheap grace. You cannot leave a vacuum."

"As I re-enact the gospel, that becomes the glue that brings incredibly different people together. If you begin to do the J-Curve, you undermine tribalism and eventually destroy it."