Ann interviews Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest. If you don’t know him already, you should. Here, they discuss the disaster of the Iran “incursion,” what made Trump do it, what JD Vance should do, and Reagan’s legacy — among other issues of vital interest to me. And also pretty important for the country.

Brief Bio: Heilbrunn writes prolifically for The UK Spectator, The New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, Reuters, Washington Monthly, etc. etc.

He also was an Arthur F. Burns Fellow, a winner of the George F. Kennan Award, a senior editor at the New Republic and an editorial writer for the Los Angeles Times.