What a Time to Be Alive by Jade Chang is a sharp, funny and smart story centered on a woman's journey through grief and the wellness industry. Jade joined us live at The Grove to talk about finding her character's voice, Los Angeles, TED Talks, belief, hope, performance, coming-of-age narratives, fame and more with host Miwa Messer.

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang.

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