Protests continue against white supremacy and police murder across the country, as more people identify Trump as a fascist and demand his resignation. Today's episode is airing on Trump's birthday, which is being "celebrated" with protests outside the White House and in multiple cities around the country. 

Jason Stanley (@jasonintrator), philosopher and author of "How Fascism Works," is interviewed by Coco Das (@coco_das), an editor of RefuseFascism.org. This discussion was recorded on June 3. 

“By placing Trump in transnational and transhistorical perspective,  Stanley sees patterns that others miss. . . . Stanley’s comparative  perspective is particularly effective in illustrating how fascists use  fears of sexual violence. . . . By calling Trump a ‘fascist’—a word that  strikes many Americans as alien and extreme—Stanley is trying to spark  public alarm. He doesn’t want Americans to respond to Trump’s racist,  authoritarian offensives by moving their moral goal posts. The greater  danger, he suggests, isn’t hyperbole, it’s normalization. And twenty  months into Trump’s presidency, the evidence is mounting that he’s  right.”—The New York Times Book Review (Editors’ Choice)

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown.