In this episode, our host Josh Baer speaks with returning guest, the ex-Blum and Poe Founder Jeff Poe. In part one of the conversation, Jeff discusses on the present and future states of the market, how galleries and artists can adapt to survive, and if the grass really is greener on the other side, one year after his retirement from the art world.

Then, tune in as Poe shares his thoughts on the challenges facing galleries of all sizes, the pressures influencing today’s art prices, and the importance of separating the art from the ego.

In part three of the conversation the two discuss how major galleries have–or haven’t—created succession plans, opportunities for the slow-moving art world to pivot in increasingly fast-moving times, and other “elephants in the room”. 

Last but not least, stay tuned for the conclusion, in which Jeff shares his optimism for a radically reformed art world, what’s keeping people from splurging on art in the modern era, and what exactly he’s been up to in retirement.