My guest is Jill Jacobs, metal artist. She makes metal "vessels" by combining repeating shapes from uniform steel rods in unique combinations to create 3-D forms. Our conversation ranged from art to philosophy, and of course, the community of creative people who share what they do.

Learn more about Jill's work on Instagram,her web site, as well as her Patreon where you can see behind the scenes and some thoughts on art and philosophy.