In this second segment of our two-part interview with former American Senator Jim Talent, Senator Talent and Dr. Doriani talk more broadly about the American political system, the role of citizens in a democracy, and what Christians ought to expect from their elected representatives. He encourages believers to remember that Jesus didn't come to reform people or systems but to make new people and new systems, and that to put too much hope in politics is to put "new wine in old wineskins", and yet we all bear divine authority and responsibility which we must exercise thoughtfully and humbly.

Some questions for further reflections on this episode: