Busy & Caissie are doing their best, but, not gonna lie, it’s been a rough several days…in our world, in our country and in Busy’s flooded basement. However, this episode’s guest appearance is rare and special. Once in a lifetime, really. This week marks 7 years since Joan Rivers has been gone and, by chance, Caissie recently found a long-lost interview she recorded with Joan, her friend and mentor and colleague, ten years ago, in 2011. In it, she discusses some pretty important pivots, which is prophetic considering this podcast wasn’t even conceived yet. Joan discusses her feud with Johnny Carson, what she really thought of Donald Trump’s Presidential aspirations at that time, who her celebrity BFFS are and who wrote the note she carried around in her bra for years. It’s pretty magical to hear from her again. (Thank you to Melissa Rivers for giving her blessing to publish this recording.)

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