The Devils by Joe Abercrombie follows an invasion of flesh-eating elves threatening Europe and a special force of monsters recruited to save the day. Joe joins us to talk about fantasy subgenres, characterization, voice, action sequences, The Lord of the Rings and more with cohost Jenna Seery.

This episode of Poured Over was hosted by Jenna Seery and mixed by Harry Liang.

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Featured Books (Episode): The Devils by Joe Abercrombie The Red Winter by Cameron Sullivan The First Law Trilogy by Joe Abercrombie L.A. Confidential by James Ellroy A Game of Thrones by George R. R. Martin A Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula K. Le Guin Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry The Civil War: A Narrative, Volume 1: Fort Sumter to Perryville by Shelby Foote