Dr. Peele and Zach Rhoads respond to clips from Joe Rogan's recent interview with Stanford Psychiatrist and Author Anna Lembke. 

It was with some disappointment — but little surprise — that we watched “iconoclast” podcaster Joe Rogan interview an “all-is-dopamine” addiction expert (a position that even Nora Volkow seems to be backtracking on). Disappointment because Rogan seemed so sympathetic to Carl Hart’s opposite position. But not surprised since (a) all-is-dopamine is the cultural fallback position, (b) Carl doesn’t require interviewers to grasp experimentally his (our) position that addiction is a lived experience.

We contend that Dr. Lembke's (America's) popular brain disease model NOT saved lives or prevented addiction in any meaningful way. Worse still, this reductionist "dopamine uber alles" model of addiction is actually doing MORE HARM THAN GOOD, as it permeates American culture and stymies people's ability to move forward in practical ways. 

Stanton then reflects on a recent MedPage Today article about social media addiction. 

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