June 19, 2026

Joelle Pineau on Why Sovereign AI Just Got Real

59 minutes

Days after the US government forced Anthropic to pull Mythos 5 and Fable 5 offline, Cohere Chief AI Officer Joelle Pineau joins Jason Howell to react. The former Meta FAIR leader makes the case for sovereign AI, models that enterprises run on their own terms, on-premise and under their control, and explains why the shutdown was a wake-up call for everyone depending on a single provider.
Also in this conversation: why Cohere open-sourced its North Mini Code model, what stops an agent from taking an action it shouldn't, how AI is changing entry-level work, and where AI actually belongs in medicine and drug discovery.
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CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Start

0:02:28 - Honorary doctorate from the University of Ottawa, uncertainty for new graduates

0:10:33 - Grads: Say Yes to the role they’re not quite ready for

0:22:07 - Leaving Meta’s Fundamental AI Research team

0:27:06 - North Mini Code

0:34:29 - History with AI in personalized medicine

0:43:21 - What does North do today that stops an agent from behaving badly?

0:45:51 - Cohere and sovereignty with the current dispute between Anthropic and the U.S. government

0:50:39 - Are we any closer to agents that can build connections to understand each other?

Hosts: Jason Howell Guest: Joelle Pineau

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