If you've seen the Planet of the Apes movies, then you should know where John's coming from with this one. Of all the animals on earth, the greater apes arguably come the closest to human level intelligence. They can use tools, communicate with one another and even communicate with humans. But are they sentient? Do they have consciousness? And are they secretly plotting to rule us all? These questions have been keeping John up at night since the beginning of this podcast. Which kind of makes it the perfect question for Ryan to answer for this week's episode, the one year anniversary of John and Ryan's Pillow Talk! Thanks for sticking with us bedbugs. And give Ryan his props for ending centuries of philosophical musings and defining "consciousness" once and for all.