To celebrate one year of This Must Be the Gig, host Lior Phillips welcomes Mountain Goats mastermind John Darnielle onto the podcast. And, to commemorate the momentous occasion, the duo dig into a massive conversation about what it's like to tour as a parent, their individual approaches to collecting books, the time John and his son visited soundcheck for Lee "Scratch" Perry, the philosophy of Magic: The Gathering, and so, so much more.

Head here for more on the Mountain Goats' excellent new album, In League With Dragons, and the band's upcoming tour.

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