Episode 17: Dr. Marshall Hawkins

Idyllwild Arts Academy Jazz Program Founder, Bassist with Richie Cole, Miles Davis Quintet, Betty Gray, Donny Hathaway, Lena Horne, Roberta Flack, Manhattan Transfer, and more…

►about Dr. Hawkins: https://idyllwildarts.org/people/marshall-hawkins/

Selected quotes from our podcast:

·      “Pay attention to your subject matter. Your subject matter is your life”

·      “I think about that first note that I’m going to play. I think about that note with such reverence, that I may never get a chance to play that note again”.

·      “Don’t let anyone get in the way of you and the love in your heart”. “Don’t get in the way of my love. I will fight you”.

·      “You have to be careful what you wish for because you’re going to get it. So, you’ve got to be prepared”.

·      “I’ve never, never thought about money”.

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions

2:16: Earliest memories, gift of memory, and “second childhood”

5:07: Growing up in Washington D.C. in the 1940’s, “Victory Gardens”, church, being humble, “C Jam Blues”, the Boy Scouts, model airplanes, glee club, and the building of Frederick Douglass Junior High School.

15:30: Brown vs. Board of Education (1954) and exposure to racism. Being a track star and la musica as passports, “U.S. History”, and scout master.

21:40: Voices above the crowd and becoming a professional musician.

26:58: L.O.V.E. and not taking the “J” out of joy.

31:49: Louis Armstrong: “what are you going to do to leave a legacy for humanity”?

33:20: Giving and receiving

34:45: Playing the bass and becoming a professional musician overnight.

38:52: Betty Gray (first gig at the Bohemian Caverns in DC), Lena Horne and Travelin’ Light (1965), and Miles Davis

41:53: Working with Miles Davis

44:08: Idyllwild Arts and numerical configuration (1978)

47:58: Tanzania, respect for elders, Maasai ancestral lineage, “we know who you are”

55:50: Advice for young musicians: “Silence is golden!” 

59:03: Marshall and John improvise “All the Things You Are”

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video and Audio Capture: Justin Holmes

Video and Audio Editing: Izzi Guzman
Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Idyllwild, CA, July 3, 2024

Special Thank you to:

Idyllwild Arts Academy

Pamela Jordan

Rose Colella

Tom Hynes

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP),

Except “All the Things You Are” by Jerome Kern and Oscar Hammerstein II

#drmarshallhawkins #idyllwildarts #idyllwildsummerarts #jazzbass #bass #milesdavis #milesdavisquintet #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzeducator 

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 16: Michel Camilo, Grammy, Latin Grammy, and Emmy Winning Pianist, Composer, and Bandleader

►Michel Camilo website: https://www.michelcamilo.com

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions

1:28: Attention to detail and standards of excellence, and learning never ends

8:05: Where does the motivation come from?

9:40: Refusing mediocrity

12:10: Magnetism and engaging the audience

15:05: Creative flow, no ego, and commitment to practice!

20:39: What do you practice?

24:30: Is there a difference between entertainment and artistry?

32:00: What are you working on now?

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video Capture: Max Nierlich

Audio Capture: Jake Sonderman

Video and Audio Editing: Izzi Guzman
Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, April 24, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#michelcamilo #michelcamilotrio #piano #jazzpiano #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzeducator 

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 15: Anat Cohen: Grammy-Nominated Clarinetist, Saxophonist & Composer

►Anat Cohen website: https://www.anatcohen.com

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
1:32: A discussion about collaboration and bandleading

8:00: the challenges of the “hang”

10:30: Listening to your own recordings through other’s ears.

14:35: The possibility of a solo clarinet album!

20:45: The vulnerability of playing duo

23:43: navigating the business stuff and the necessity of self-promotion

27:30: Lyrics, words, and languages

32:20: Acknowledging fear and developing trust

42:00: Creativity: Structure and Imagination

44:44: Honest and pure approaches to improvisation

47:20: Planning career intentions (?) and doing it NOW.

51:45: Music has to mean something.

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video Capture: Max Nierlich

Audio Capture: Jake Sonderman

Video and Audio Editing: Izzi Guzman
Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, April 19, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#anatcohen #clarinet #saxophone #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzeducator 

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 14: Grammy-Award Winning Multi-Instrumentalist, Producer, Composer, and Music Icon, Marcus Miller

►Marcus Miller website: https://www.marcusmiller.com

►Key Moments:

0:00 - Introductions

1:49: John’s “Fat Time” car accident story

3:21: Producing Miles Davis’ Tutu, Siesta, and Amandla and more…

19:40: The bass clarinet

23:20: Miles Davis mentorship

33:55: The recording of Grover Washington Jr.’s “Just the Two of Us”

38:30: The recording of Donald Fagen’s “The Nightfly”

42:10: Luther Vandross

48:30: Scoring for films

55:55: The acoustic bass

56:55: Wynton Kelly

57:18: Funk and Fusion, and “you gotta learn jazz”

1:01:47: The Jazz Cruises and communicating with audiences. 

1:07:42:  “What are you excited about now?” 

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video Capture: Max Nierlich

Audio Capture: Jake Sonderman

Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, March 4, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#marcusmiller #electricbass #filmscore #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzeducator #amandla #thenightfly “justthetwoofus #milesdavis

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 13: Jeff Babko, Keyboardist, Musical Director, Producer, Composer, Arranger, (Jimmy Kimmel, Toto, James Taylor, Steve Gadd, Sheryl Crow, Martin Short, and more!)

►Jeff Babko website: https://www.jeffbabko.com

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
1:56: Back at University of Miami

4:26: Vinyl collection

6:06: How do manage consuming music?

10:55: 1990’s Jazz fusion, the young lions, and the gig with Julio Iglesias

19:05: Joining drummer/producer Simon Phillips

22:00: Work ethic, discipline, details, and the love…

27:55: Robben Ford, Toshi Yanagi, blue hair, and auditioning for the Martin Short Show

32:55: The Wayne Brady Show, touring with Marty Short and Wayne Brady, and joining the Jimmy Kimmel Show. “Everyone working is a good thing”.

36:12: Navigating tours with Toto, James Tayler, Steve Gadd, Steely Dan, Steve Martin and Martin Short, while playing the Jimmy Kimmel Show.

38:27: The character of the comedic accompanist

41:06: Julio Iglesias story (and the “wrong notes”). Be aware, read the situation.

44:37: What’s coming next? Managing finances 

47:37: Transitioning into the role of the “seasoned veteran”, and mentor.

51:16: Jeff and John play some D dorian model duo…

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video Capture: Max Nierlich

Audio Capture: Jake Sonderman

Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang

Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, March 1, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#jeffbabko #jazzpiano #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzeducator #jimmykimmelshow

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 12: A conversation with renowned jazz artist and educator, Bob Sheppard

►Bob Sheppard website: https://www.bobsheppard.net

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
1:33 – Playing with the JD Big Band
2:15 – Bob’s studio and cultivating a creative community in Los Angeles
14:15 –Being on the scene, practicing, merit, and the social scene…
27:50 – Thoughts and observations about practicing
37:15 – Recording work in L.A.
40:10 – Teaching, curiosity, sound, trying different equipment, and practicing the ends of notes
56:43 – Truth telling and caring for students.
59:15 – Playing with Freddie Hubbard 
1:18:26– Bob and John play a little free duo.

►Follow John Daversa Online:
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JohnDaversaMusic/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/johndaversamusic
Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video Capture: Max Nierlich
Audio Capture: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, February 28, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#bobsheppard #jazzsaxophone #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzeducator

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 11: A conversation with acclaimed singer, songwriter, (and gamer!), Michael Mayo

►Michael Mayo website: https://www.michaelmayomusic.com

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
2:51 – Musical upbringing and influences
5:40 – Learning about professionalism
8:08 –More about professionalism and boundaries: “2 strikes”. Know your worth.
12:00 – The “shed” mentality
14:20 – Practicing “Giant Steps” and the small, tiny details
19:04 – Being a singer in an instrumental world. (Proving “them” wrong).
23:56 – The voice has moods and the musical self has moods. Showing up for yourself.
26:00 – How to deliver notes with a positive spirit.
27:13 – Influential mentors and the Thelonious Monk/Herbie Hancock Institute. Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter (and the movie, The Langoliers).
36:49 – “Desert island” records and musical influences.
41:42 – Pandemic time, going “in the cave”.
43:00: Gaming and how it’s become a “shed” for music.
48:04: Exploring instruments you don’t play. “Sometimes it can be easier when you don’t have the chops”
49:05: New album!
51:05: Back home in L.A.
52:10: Where can people find you?

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video Capture and Editing: Max Nierlich
Audio Capture: Jake Sonderman and Dudley Merriam
Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, February 17, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP) 

#michaelmayo #jazzvocal #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast #jazzgaming

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 10: A conversation with jazz drummer, composer, educator, and entrepreneur, Ari Hoenig

►Ari Hoenig website: https://www.arihoenig.com
►Ari Hoenig Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/arihoenig#
►Ari Hoenig Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arihoenig/#
►Ari Hoenig YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/arihoenig#:~:text=Join%20Ari%20as%20he%20shares%20the%20knowledge%20and

Ari Hoenig is a jazz drummer, composer, and educator known for his unusual and intense approach to drumming emphasizing complex rhythms in direct harmony with other group members. Ari is widely noted particularly for his drumming not being relegated to just keeping tempo, or being a side issue to the music he plays in, but rather for elevating drumming as an indispensable part of the performance.

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
2:20 – Musical upbringing and influences
7:53 – Teaching practices and philosophies
12:47 –Why the drums?
18:00 – The decision to be a professional musician. Career day! “I wanna be a drummer”…or a “fruit visionary”.
23:50 – Going to North Texas…
30:28 – Composing
36:02 – How playing and composing influence each other
40:22 – Where does your dedication derive from? 
44:40 – How do you approach new musical situations?
48:40 – Where can we find you?
49:31 – Ari Hoenig and John Daversa Duo !!

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JohnDaversaMusic/
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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video Editing: Max Nierlich
Video and Audio Capture: Dudley Merriam
Graphic Design: Marcus Sasseville
Additional Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman
Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, February 19, 2024

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#arihoenig #jazzdrums #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast #jazzpodcast 

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Marcus Sasseville: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 9: A conversation with Multi-Award Winning Artist, Educator, and Entrepreneur, Jazzmeia Horn

►Jazzmeia Horn website: https://www.artistryofjazzhorn.com

“Horn is among the most exciting young vocalists in jazz, with a proud traditionalism that keeps her tightly linkedto the sound of classic figures like Nancy Wilson and Betty Carter, but a vivacity of spirit and conviction that places her firmly in the present”

~The New York Times

~Jazzmeia’s mother

“What do you do with what you know how to do?

~Jazzmeia Horn

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
2:25 – The teacher mission
5:20 – Harriet Horn, Jazzmeia’s grandmother
8:51 –Musical beginnings in Dallas and the “peewee” choir
14:25 – Early experience with music school
19:55 – The move to New York City
25:43 – “Battle Scars”
32:40 – Bandleading styles (balancing feminine and masculine)
37:14 – Empress Legacy Records 
44:33 – What’s next?
46:28 – The writing process (and Garage Band example)

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa

Video Editing: Max Nierlich

Video and Audio Capture: Dudley Merriam
Graphic Design: Marcus Sasseville

Additional Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, November 6, 2023

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#jazzmeiahorn #empresslegacyrecords #jazzvocal #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

Episode 8: A conversation with Grammy Award winning bassist, composer, singer, bandleader, and producer, Ben Williams

►Ben Williams website: https://www.benwilliamsofficial.com

“What makes everybody special is that they are one of one. Nobody can do what you do, and you can’t do what anybody else does”.
~Ben Williams

►Key Moments:
0:00 - Introductions
2:16 – Growing up in D.C. and the origin story…
9:10 – Hearing how music connects with life and soul.
9:35 – How we listen to music differently now
15:35 – Listening to music within different roles.
18:50 - Spending time with Pat Metheny
21:47 – Mentors and heroes, Rodney Whitaker, Stefon Harris, David Sanborn
28:25 – What makes you “you” reflects in the music.
32:42 – The vulnerability of singing
33:18 - José James and “I am a Man”, and social consciousness.
40:10 – What it means when YOU HAVE TO DO “IT” “The Universe rewards solid decisions…the doors will start to open”.
45:10 – New York, moving to L.A., and the next step
51:52: Let’s play something
52:32: Ben Williams/John Daversa Duo 

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Website: http://www.johndaversa.com  

►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video Editing: Max Nierlich
Video and Audio Capture: Dudley Merriam
Graphic Design: Marcus Sasseville
Additional Graphic Design: Izzi Guzman

Recorded in Coral Gables, FL, October 27, 2023

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)

#benwilliams #jazzbass #johndaversa #johndaversapodcast

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►Credits
Host and Producer: John Daversa
Video: Max Nierlich
Audio: Dudley Merriam
Additional Audio: Jake Sonderman
Video and Audio Editing: Yang Yang
Izzi Guzman: Graphic Design

Recorded in Miami, FL

►Music
"The John Daversa Podcast"
"Moonlight Muse"
"Junk Wagon"

All compositions composed and arranged by John Daversa
Daversafications Publications (ASCAP)