In this episode of The Woodberry Podcast, Headmaster Byron Hulsey welcomes John Gulla, Executive Director of the Edward E. Ford Foundation, for a wide-ranging discussion on the forces shaping secondary education today.

Together, Byron and John explore the broader trends influencing independent middle and high schools, from shifting demographics and financial models to questions of access, equity, and innovation. With years of experience leading and supporting schools across the country, John offers thoughtful insights into both the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead for independent education.