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Ep 217 John Lewis Career Deep Dive 

John Lewis is a mixed martial arts  pioneer that made a name for himself during what some call the “UFC Dark Era”. 
We are also joined by legendary match maker John Perretti & we dive into John Lewis career and the steps that each of these men took in order to pave the way for the lighter weight classes 

John Lewis does NOT do interviews and the only way that we were able to get this was due to John Perretti calling on a favor. 

0:00 Lytes out intro
0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction
0:58 interview start 
1:55 current life 
3:19 getting discovered by John Perretti 
5:11 becoming a fully developed fighter 
7:16 backyard dojo
11:01 blackbelt under Gene LeBell 
14:16 transitioning to Jiu jitsu with Andre Pederneiras 
17:51 Erik Paulson
19:32 Gracie’s not wanting to help ambitious fighters 
20:42 going to school with Kimo Leopoldo
21:46 Kimo Leopoldo learning Jiu jitsu from 
Randy Zigler 
22:40 dealings with Bj Penn 
23:26 John Perretti not impressed with Jiu Jitsu 
26:22 John Lewis vs Thomas Puckett
30:24 John Perretti not being concerned for John Lewis 1st fight 
32:15 John Lewis vs Carlson Gracie jr
34:12 not being worried about fighting a Gracie 
36:15 giving John Lewis a title shot 
38:10 backlash for defeating Carlson Gracie jr
41:27 training with Baret Yoshida
42:26 John Perretti’s fallout with the Gracie’s 
45:09 Extreme fighting 2 
46:40 Rickson Gracie claiming to invent fighting gloves
47:23 the world changing after gloves were involved 
48:29 fighters having fake records 
50:20 John Perretti Seminar story 
52:34 fighters getting arrested after Extreme fighting 2
55:55 training Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz 
58:00 getting introduced to Chuck Liddell 
1:00:28 Kajas cage combat 
1:01:12 John Lewis vs Rumina Sato
1:05:32 pancrase fighter records 
1:06:19 Pele Landi vs Pat Miletich
1:07:25 John Lewis fighting with the flu 
1:10:15 John Lewis vs Kenny Monday 
1:15:28 pay for Carlson Gracie Jr fight
1:16:49 fighters getting Draws on their records 
1:19:12 BJ Penn Phone call 
1:19:27 ADCC 1998 
1:21:33 John Lewis vs Lowell Anderson 
1:23:44 John Lewis Career highlights 
1:24:35 dealings with Marc Laimon
1:27:38 Mark Kerr and Bas Rutten 
1:29:24 Joe Moreira 
1:30:07 Cornering Gilbert Yvel in the UFC
1:33:08 John Lewis interview wrap up 
1:33:56 thoughts on John Lewis interview 
1:39:25 John Perretti refusing to use the words “ take down” 
1:39:53 Gene LeBell
1:42:31 the UFC dark ages 
1:44:09 Thoughts on Tito Ortiz 
1:45:16 Jason DeLucia
1:46:20 Gene LeBell chokes out Steven Seagal 
1:52:00 outro/ closing thoughts


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