In celebration of reaching 150 episodes, today we're bringing you a classic Blank episode from the archive

Jon is a multi-award-winning author, screenwriter, and documentarian, whose work includes The Psychopath Test, Them, The Men Who Stare at Goats and So You've Been Publicly Shamed AND the first-ever guest on the BLANK podcast!

We caught up with Jon while he was in the UK to do some live shows about his brilliant Audible series 'The Butterfly Effect'.

We talked about the destructive nature of a social media pile on and Jon's own recent brush with it. Jon tells us about his own methods for making sure he avoids going BLANK on projects and opens up about empathy being his first way into a story.

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