Jon takes Shaun on a road with incredible views and equally incredible drops off the cliff. Jon's had some strange and amazing experiences along this highway, from San Francisco to Big Sur to Malibu, and Shaun is definitely tempted. Resident geographer, historian and comedian Iszi Lawrence is along for the ride.

Your Place Or Mine is the travel podcast that isn’t going anywhere. Join Shaun as his guests try to convince him that it’s worth getting up off the sofa and seeing the world, giving us a personal guide to their favourite place on the planet.

Producers: Beth O'Dea and Sarah Goodman

Your Place or Mine is a BBC Audio production for BBC Radio 4 and BBC Sounds.