Former CIA agent Joshua Katz first signed up to the army when most of his peers were contemplating whether to they'd go to law or business school. His nice Jewish parents were baffled, but it didn't stop Katz. He went onto serve as a Squad Leader in the Special Operation Command (SOCOM), where he trained his unit for special combat. Despite his parent’s fears, Katz thrived. He says his military stint offered him a nuanced sense of how counterterrorism efforts "are used and misused."

The CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) then recruited Katz and sent him to work on terrorism as an Intelligence Officer in the National Clandestine Service. We spoke about how the secrecy required for the job often reeks havoc on marriage and his decision to invite terrorists into his home with his children for dinner. (I apologize. I should have asked him what food he served them.)

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