My good friend Joy Reid joined me for a candid conversation about what she’s been up to and the mayhem Donald Trump continues to unleash on America.

We discussed the importance of standing up and speaking out—using our platform for good, no matter the cost. As Joy put it: “What’s the point of being a United States senator if you’re so scared of a primary that you can’t do the right thing? They know he’s crazy. They know he’s unhinged. They just don’t care—they’re chicken.”

We also dove into the dangers of Trump’s anti-DEI crusade, which threatens to drag this country backward. Joy didn’t hold back as she exposed Trump for the disgrace he is, delivering an epic recap of his constant failures—stretching all the way back to the 1980s.

We wrapped up with some truly inspiring words from Joy on how to stay positive and engaged during all this Trump-Musk chaos:

“The reality is, we have to dig in for a potentially long haul ... but do something small. Do something that you can do ... and be joyful. Have some joy.”

I hope you enjoy this episode of The Dworkin Report as much as I enjoyed the conversation.

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