Blake Murphy and Julia Kreuz recap Wednesday’s loss, highlighting Cade Horton and the Cubs’ bullpen's challenges for Toronto. MLB.com’s Shanthi Sepe-Chepuru (31:25) discusses the Blue Jays, Jen Pawol’s umpiring debut, and more. Bisons catcher Brandon Valenzuela (50:18) shares his trade experience and time with the Blue Jays organization. Longtime umpire Perry Barber (1:02:17) reflects on Jen Pawol’s journey and the role of women in baseball. Finally, Blue Jays Director of Amateur Scouting Marc Tramuta (1:17:11) talks about Toronto’s 2025 draft picks, including JoJo Parker and Jake Cook.

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