Episode Overview

Sometimes the most remarkable leaders don’t arrive at the top by climbing a neatly planned ladder, they stumble, pivot, and rebuild along winding roads. In this deeply personal and unexpectedly funny episode of Gratitude Through Hard Times, host Chris Schembra welcomes Julie Peck, a transformative CEO whose story proves that a “curvy path” is not a flaw, it’s a strength.

Julie’s life didn’t begin with obvious momentum. She grew up in a household that didn’t talk about feelings, in the shadow of a brilliant but stoic father and amid early self-doubt that left her with little sense of self-worth. By her twenties, she found herself adrift, unhappy, financially unstable, stuck in unfulfilling relationships, and ultimately failing out of college. She ended up living in a crumbling apartment above a record store, sleeping on a mattress she salvaged from a frat house dumpster. From the outside, it looked like failure; from the inside, it felt like rock bottom.

But Julie didn’t stay there. In this conversation, she shares the turning points that changed her trajectory: discovering the courage to face old wounds through therapy and 12-step recovery, deciding to rebuild her education while working full-time, and learning to measure her worth by more than just professional success. Along the way, she tapped into something profound, the ability to take one small action forward even when the long-term plan is unclear.

That perseverance reshaped her career. Julie went from customer service to HR innovator to creative director, learning to package her “pile of skills and behaviors” into new opportunities. She took smart risks, like organizing a union drive not to win but to force leadership to listen — and watched those risks lead to promotions and purpose. Ultimately, she rose into C-suite leadership and CEO roles, scaling tech companies, driving triple-digit growth, and building cultures where people thrive. But she never forgot the messy middle or the tools that helped her climb out.

Together, Chris and Julie go far beyond résumés and revenue. They unpack what resilience really looks like: the gritty inner work of building self-worth when no one hands it to you, the power of visualizing a future even if you don’t know how to get there, and the discipline of balancing the things you must do, should do, and want to do. They talk about how gratitude rewires imposter syndrome, how thanking those who invest in you is a way of saying, “I believe your belief in me.” They explore why everyone — even highly accomplished leaders — is “winging it” every day, and why that’s not weakness but reality.

For anyone navigating uncertainty, Julie’s journey is a masterclass in turning pain into purpose and mistakes into momentum. It’s a reminder that your story doesn’t have to be perfect to be powerful, in fact, the curve is where character is forged.

This episode is a warm invitation to pause, reflect, and reconnect with what matters: your own worth, the people who’ve lifted you along the way, and the belief that no setback is final. Whether you’re rebuilding after a career stumble, leading through change, or simply searching for hope in a hard season, Julie’s voice will feel like a steady hand on your shoulder.

Stay tuned for part two, where Chris and Julie will dive deeper into leadership in the age of AI, the behaviors that outlast fast-changing technical skills, and how curiosity and gratitude shape the future of work.

10 Standout Quotes

1. “I had to organically discover my own self-worth. That’s been a 35-year journey, and I’m not done.” — Julie Peck
    
2. “Everybody is unqualified for whatever is going to come on this day because they’ve never had this day before. We’re all winging it.” — Julie Peck
    
3. “Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater, even in the hardest seasons, you’re good at something. Start there.” — Julie Peck
    
4. “Imposter syndrome is basically telling the people who invested in you: ‘I don’t trust your judgment.’ Gratitude flips that script.” — Chris Schembra
    
5. “The impediment to action advances action; what stands in the way becomes the way.” — Marcus Aurelius (quoted by Chris)
    
6. “Progress comes from movement, not perfection. Just take one small step forward.” — Chris Schembra
    
7. “The curvy path is a gift, because every detour teaches you something you’ll need later.” — Julie Peck
    
8. “Skills expire faster than ever; behaviors like curiosity, resilience, and asking better questions endure.” — Chris Schembra
    
9. “Boundaries are self-worth in action. Saying no is a complete sentence.” — Julie Peck
    
10. “Connection is the opposite of feeling alone in the world, and it’s built one honest conversation at a time.” — Julie Peck
     

10 Key Takeaways

1. The “Curvy Path” Is Normal: Career and life rarely follow a straight line; detours and setbacks are often where resilience is forged.
    
2. Self-Worth Can Be Built: Therapy, reflection, and courageous action help rewire old narratives of “not enough.”
    
3. Everyone Feels Like an Imposter: High achievers quietly doubt themselves — knowing this is freeing and normalizing.
    
4. Gratitude Combats Self-Doubt: Thanking those who invest in you reframes fear and reinforces your value.
    
5. Skills Fade — Behaviors Last: Curiosity, learning agility, and empathy outlast technical know-how in an AI-driven workplace.
    
6. Visualize the Long Game: Thinking 15–20 years ahead helps shape better short-term decisions and career pivots.
    
7. Boundaries Are Essential: Healthy limits protect time, energy, and self-worth, enabling sustainable success.
    
8. Use Work as a Launchpad, Not an Escape: Achievements can build confidence but shouldn’t mask personal growth gaps.
    
9. Take Brave Micro-Steps: Big change starts with one small action; movement matters more than perfection.
    
10. Connection Breaks Isolation: Vulnerable storytelling, mentorship, and shared humanity turn loneliness into belonging.