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  • Generating Opportunity Solution Trees with AI: How Vistaly Rebuilt Its Product Around Interview Synthesis, Evals, and Re

    Guests

    • Matt O'Connell, Co-Founder and CEO, Vistaly
    • CP Dehli, Co-Founder, Vistaly
    • Steve Klein, Co-Founder, Vistaly
    • Teresa Torres, host of Just Now Possible, building the AI synthesis services for Vistaly V2
    • Key Takeaways

      • The competition isn't good interview synthesis done faster—it's shallow synthesis that never really happened. That changes what "good enough" means.
      • Layered analysis matters more than whether a step is a pipeline or an agent. If the interview snapshot is wrong, every layer above it inherits the error.
      • Prompt changes run out. Balancing two opposing error modes took an orchestration change—moving the check into an agentic repair loop—not a better prompt.
      • Change sets can't be diffed at the end. The same input/output tree pair has multiple valid change sets, and only the semantically meaningful one makes sense to a user.
      • Users don't want to collaborate with the AI step by step. They want the answer, then the ability to correct it.
      • In this episode

        • Why Vistaly rebuilt from scratch instead of layering AI features onto V1—and shut off V1 signups to protect the rewrite
        • Rebuilding nearly all of V1's functionality in two and a half months, after three years of building it the first time
        • The V1 chat interface that walked users through insights one at a time, and why "still faster than before" wasn't fast enough
        • How V2 works: upload three interviews, generate an interview snapshot for each, then synthesize a first-draft opportunity solution tree
        • The "house of cards" problem: garbage in at the snapshot layer corrupts the tree above it
        • Using a code assertion (too many children on a node) as a cheap pre-filter before spending money on an LLM as a judge
        • Four new evals and 16 experiment variants to break a seesaw between missing subgroupings and badly framed parents
        • Why the fix was a repair loop in the orchestration, not a better prompt—and how that eval became a production guardrail
        • Teaching the agent "the rules of the game" so it logs semantic moves (merge, move, reframe) and produces reliable change sets
        • Stable IDs, data provenance, and the "basic computer science" Teresa swept under the rug in the prototype
        • What beta data revealed about interview quality: sales demos, stakeholder meetings, and LLM-generated fake transcripts uploaded as "interviews"
        • Building a 40-point system for generating realistic synthetic transcripts as test data
        • Driving tree edits through MCP, including mapping a full Jira epic backlog into the opportunity space
        • Adding an agent back to the canvas, and the versioning and rollback problem that comes with it
        • Data residency, SOC 2, GDPR, and moving to European Bedrock inference
        • Why model upgrades aren't drop-in: prompts are model- and version-specific, and Bedrock constrains tokens independently of the model
        • Resources & Links

          • Vistaly — Opportunity solution tree software with AI-generated interview snapshots and tree synthesis
          • Product Talk — Teresa's AI evals guide and her blog posts on building the Vistaly synthesis services
          • Model Context Protocol — How Vistaly users drive tree edits from outside the product
          • AWS Bedrock — Where Vistaly runs inference, including EU-hosted inference for European customers
          • Just Now Possible episode with Banani — the canvas-plus-agent design UX Teresa references
          • Just Now Possible episode with Zencity — the layered data pyramid Teresa references
          • All Things Product episode on the quality of evidence, with Petra Wille
          • Chapters

            00:00 Meet the Founders

            01:05 How Vistaly Began
            03:10 Community First Partnership
            04:56 Why Build OST Software
            07:18 OST Explained Fast
            10:28 Evidence Inside the Tree
            12:56 AI Changes Discovery
            16:58 Chat UI Experiment
            23:00 Should AI Do Synthesis
            27:10 Rebuilding as V2
            32:08 Turning Off V1 Signups
            34:43 V2 Workflow and Tensions
            39:35 Trusting AI Outputs
            39:56 Layered Analysis Pyramid
            41:25 Building Better Trees
            43:34 Bad Inputs and Coaching
            47:20 Teaching Through Software
            50:12 Evals and Guardrails
            55:23 Deterministic Change Sets
            01:00:54 UX for Tree Updates
            01:07:12 Chat Agents and Versioning
            01:11:17 Privacy Compliance Tradeoffs
            01:15:06 Model Selection Reality
            01:17:32 What Comes Next
            01:19:08 Closing and Links

            1 hr 20 min
          • Creating Aha! Builder: Concept to Code, No Engineers Required

            Guests

            • Brian De Haaff, CEO and Co-Founder, Aha!
            • Chris Waters, CTO and Co-Founder, Aha!
            • Sarah Moisan-Thomas, Senior Product Manager for Aha! Builder, Aha!
            • Key Takeaways

              • Aha! is fully bootstrapped, remote-first, and profitable—built by product people, for product people
              • Containerized infrastructure proved too wasteful for AI app building at scale, pushing Aha! to rebuild on a single-instance, multi-tenant architecture
              • Deterministic, pre-built components (authentication, SSO, database, email) cut token cost and guarantee reliability that AI-generated code can't
              • A multi-phase, multi-agent pipeline—design system, then prototype, then backend—produces better outcomes than a single open-ended chat prompt
              • As building gets easier, knowing what to build becomes the product manager's real differentiator
              • In this episode

                • Aha!'s 13-year bootstrapped, remote, no-salespeople business model
                • The five-step discovery framework Aha! uses for every new product, including Builder
                • Why their first containerized version was too slow and expensive to scale
                • Rebuilding for a single-instance, multi-tenant architecture
                • Reusing the agent framework and tool set originally built for "Elle"—Aha!'s roadmapping AI assistant
                • Deterministic components for authentication, SSO, database access, and email
                • The multi-agent, multi-phase build pipeline: design system, then prototype, then full application
                • Enterprise governance: authentication policies, deployment guardrails, and PII/PHI considerations
                • Why Aha! is optimizing for prototypes, proofs of concept, and internal "meta applications"—not primary line-of-business apps
                • What's next: expanded design systems and tighter feedback loops across Aha!'s product suite
                • Resources & Links

                  • Aha!
                  • Chapters

                    00:00 Meet the Aha! Team

                    00:19 Aha! Bootstrapped Remote Story
                    01:29 What Is Aha Builder
                    02:27 Leaders Stay Hands On
                    04:49 Origin and AI Shift
                    07:44 Why Build in Aha!
                    14:12 Discovery Framework
                    17:50 From Slides to Early Access
                    21:40 Proof of Concept Approach
                    23:36 Under the Hood Architecture
                    27:01 Agent Tools and UX
                    30:59 Deterministic Components
                    33:42 Skills Docs and Iteration
                    35:48 Higher Level Building Blocks
                    36:33 Knowing What To Build
                    38:57 Builder UX For PMs
                    44:10 Enterprise Governance Guardrails
                    47:29 What Builder Is For
                    50:39 PII Security And Compliance
                    53:15 Quality Evals And Pricing
                    55:29 V8 Isolates Architecture
                    58:22 Multi Agent Build Pipeline
                    01:01:14 Roadmap Design And Feedback
                    01:03:01 PMs Engineers And PR Flow
                    01:05:52 Wrap Up And Thanks

                    1 hr 7 min
                  • Building AI for Women's Health: How Hertility Combined Bayesian Diagnosis and Scan Automation

                    Guests

                    • Tulsi Patel, Director of Product and Technology, Hertility
                    • Lorna Brightmore, Head of Data and AI, Hertility
                    • Jack Pickard, Head of Engineering, Hertility
                    • In this episode

                      • What makes Hertility's data set unique: seven years of linked symptoms, blood tests, and pelvic scans from over a million women
                      • How Gyn.AI uses a Bayesian network to give clinicians probability-based diagnoses instead of binary yes/no calls
                      • Why showing clinicians the reasoning behind a diagnosis—not just the label—builds trust and speeds up triage
                      • Guarding against automation bias with holdout sets and independent, fresh-eyes review
                      • Inside the scan automation pipeline: classifying ultrasound images, detecting follicles, and measuring ovarian volume more precisely than manual methods
                      • Using an agentic loop to check AI-drafted clinical letters against patient data and catch hallucinations before a human sees them
                      • The infrastructure challenge of securely piping DICOM ultrasound images from third-party scan providers into Hertility's systems
                      • How Hertility handles PII and PHI: pseudonymization, data minimization, and running models in-house on AWS Bedrock
                      • Why treating healthcare regulation as a product requirement from day one makes AI products more scalable, not slower
                      • Key Takeaways

                        • Probabilistic, transparent AI outputs build more clinician trust than binary classifications.
                        • Guardrails against automation bias are as important as the model itself.
                        • Data minimization and in-house infrastructure make it possible to build AI responsibly with sensitive health data.
                        • Treating regulation as a design constraint from day one makes AI products more defensible and scalable, not slower.
                        • Resources & Links

                          • Hertility — At-home hormone testing and reproductive health diagnostics for women in the UK and Ireland
                          • AWS Bedrock — The platform Hertility uses to run LLMs in-house under its own governance and regulatory controls
                          • PyTorch — The foundation for Hertility's in-house image classification and contouring models
                          • Chapters

                            00:00 Meet the Team

                            00:13 What Hertility Does
                            01:51 How Customers Access It
                            04:06 A Unique Women’s Health Dataset
                            07:03 Mission and Efficiency with AI
                            10:03 Why Long Assessments Convert
                            13:52 Before AI Workflows
                            16:52 Research Publications and Impact
                            18:48 GynAI Reducing Time to Diagnosis
                            21:21 Triage and Clinician Support
                            24:37 Keeping Patient UX the Same
                            26:12 Bayesian Network and Explainability
                            30:19 Multiple Diagnoses and Probabilities
                            32:37 Probabilistic Diagnosis Shift
                            33:50 Clinician Adoption and Workflow Fit
                            34:58 Communicating Medical Uncertainty
                            36:43 Scan Automation Overview
                            40:30 In House Image Analysis
                            44:25 DICOM Pipeline Engineering
                            47:30 Evals and Automation Bias
                            50:31 LLM Letter Guardrails
                            56:47 PHI Handling and Regulations
                            01:00:43 Infrastructure Choices and Wrap Up

                            1 hr 5 min
                          • From COVID Pivot to AI World Building: How Snapbar Reinvented the Photo Experience

                            Guests

                            • Sam Eitzen, Co-founder & CEO, Snapbar
                            • Joe Eitzen, Co-founder & CPO, Snapbar
                            • Patrick Ellis, CTO, Snapbar
                            • You'll hear how they:

                              • Pivoted from physical photo booths to a cross-platform virtual product in spring 2020 using WebRTC—built from first principles out of necessity
                              • Integrated Stable Diffusion 1.5 as their first generative AI model and ran custom LoRA fine-tunes on H100/H200 GPUs to produce brand-quality outputs nobody else in their space could match
                              • Evolved from negative prompts to reasoning model long-form prompts, giving brands more precise creative and safety control
                              • Built a meta-prompting pre-processing pipeline to ensure user likenesses—including non-obvious details like disabilities—are accurately represented in generated images
                              • Designed an experiential marketing platform that lets brands "world build" at conferences, trade shows, and live events by bringing fans into branded creative worlds
                              • Added participatory user inputs through Mad Lib-style prompts and prompt injection, turning photo experiences into co-creation moments between brands and their audiences
                              • Used Claude Code and Codex to build and ship features rapidly as a small bootstrap team, and developed a four-pillar agent orchestration framework: context, tools, verification, and workflows
                              • Are building customer-facing "vibe coding" using the Claude Agent SDK so brands can configure and create experiences themselves within Snapbar's platform
                              • Resources & Links

                                • Snapbar — AI photo booth and experiential marketing platform
                                • Patrick Ellis on YouTube — Patrick's channel on AI engineering and agent orchestration
                                • Sam Eitzen on LinkedIn — Follow Sam for experiential marketing insights
                                • Claude Code — The AI coding tool Patrick and Teresa both use heavily
                                • Stable Diffusion — One of the generative image models in the mix Snapbar evaluates for its AI photo experiences
                                • Black Forest Labs / Flux — Another model family Snapbar tests and can route activations to, depending on the creative style needed
                                • Chapters

                                  00:00 Meet the SnapBar Team

                                  00:59 From Photo Booth Side Hustle
                                  02:31 Pandemic Pivot to Virtual
                                  08:06 What AI Photo Booth Does
                                  11:03 Why It Works at Events
                                  13:15 When AI Entered the Product
                                  14:26 Early GenAI Tech Stack
                                  17:43 Patrick’s Learning Path
                                  20:44 Why They Bet on AI
                                  28:25 Building with Necessity
                                  34:25 Applied AI Beats Models
                                  36:01 Prompting Got Easier
                                  37:53 Arcades to Home Shift
                                  38:58 Commoditization vs Application Layer
                                  40:58 Experiential Platform Overview
                                  42:33 World Cup Activation Examples
                                  45:34 QR Flow and WebRTC
                                  47:51 Capture to Display Pipeline
                                  49:24 Dark Factory and Vibe Coding
                                  55:38 Brand Safety Prompting
                                  01:00:23 Meta Prompting and Representation
                                  01:03:22 Experiential Marketing Momentum
                                  01:06:12 Agent Orchestration Framework
                                  01:10:02 Claude Code and Fable Rant
                                  01:12:48 Wrap Up and Where to Find Them

                                  1 hr 15 min
                                • Is This Okay? How Override Labs Built a Safety-First AI Consent Coach for Teen Boys

                                  Guests

                                  • Priya Nakra, Founder and Product Lead, Override Labs
                                  • Olivia Rowley, AI Advisor and Board Member, Override Labs
                                  • In this episode

                                    • Why Priya left a 10-year tech career to found a nonprofit focused on gender-based violence prevention
                                    • How scraping 2,000 Reddit posts per subreddit validated demand for a consent reflection tool
                                    • Why Override Labs defined a "South star" — the worst-case outcome — and designed the product to avoid it
                                    • How a licensed therapist and positive masculinity coaches shaped the product's tone and eval rubric
                                    • Why the product never gives a "green flag" response — and what it offers instead
                                    • How risk classification runs deterministically before Claude is ever called, then tailors the response by tier
                                    • The three-part response structure grounded in motivational interviewing: validate, reflect, invite reflection
                                    • Why "privacy by design" meant no accounts, no cookies, no cross-session tracking — and how that became a feature
                                    • The challenge of measuring prevention when success means something didn't happen
                                    • How Override Labs is building a product ecosystem: a women's tool, a web game as a top-of-funnel, and a future institutional API layer
                                    • Resources & Links

                                      • Override Labs — Building technology to prevent harm from gender-based violence
                                      • The Fund to Prevent Sexual Assault — The philanthropic incubator that funded Override Labs' first cohort
                                      • You can find Override Lab's products here:

                                        • Is this okay?
                                        • Game Boi
                                        • Chapters

                                          00:00 Meet Priya and Olivia

                                          00:50 Why Override Labs Exists
                                          02:11 From Tech to Mission
                                          04:51 Is Technology Good
                                          07:49 Narrowing to Teen Consent
                                          11:07 Researching Teen Scenarios
                                          14:33 Clinical Guidance and Tone
                                          16:48 Designing for Reflection
                                          20:51 Prototype to Product Flow
                                          24:46 Risk Tiers and Evals
                                          28:10 Defining the Conversation Goal
                                          29:35 Motivational Interviewing Framework
                                          31:37 Measuring Real World Impact
                                          35:39 Privacy First Data Practices
                                          40:29 Reaching Teens With Ads
                                          41:56 Web Game Funnel Strategy
                                          44:30 Funding and Institutional Pathways
                                          46:50 UX for Sensitive Moments
                                          49:34 Matching the Older Brother Tone
                                          52:09 Building Safe AI for Prevention
                                          54:35 Closing Thoughts and Thanks

                                          56 min
                                        • Beyond Black Box Scores: How Musubi Trains Custom AI for Trust and Safety Teams

                                          Guests

                                          • Nikki Marinsek, Data Scientist, Musubi
                                          • Brian McCaffrey, Software Engineer, Musubi
                                          • Dan Means, Machine Learning Engineer, Musubi
                                          • In this episode

                                            • Why off-the-shelf moderation scores fail and how custom-trained models fix that
                                            • How Musubi combines traditional ML with LLMs for different moderation tasks
                                            • The discovery that AI can outperform human moderators—and how to communicate that to clients
                                            • Using AI as a judge to referee disagreements between AI and human decisions
                                            • How Musubi onboards new customers with "reverse demos"
                                            • What custom model training actually means: fine-tuning, feature engineering, and reusable deployment pipelines
                                            • The policy optimizer: an agentic flow that helps customers iterate on their LLM moderation policies
                                            • Why pushing eval tools directly to customers is a core product strategy
                                            • How Musubi is building flexible orchestration workflows for non-technical trust and safety teams
                                            • Resources & Links

                                              • Musubi — AI-powered trust and safety toolkit for content platforms
                                              • Maven AI Evals Course — The course Teresa took to learn about evals (get 35% off with Teresa's affiliate link)
                                              • Chapters

                                                00:00 Meet the Team

                                                01:18 Why Everyone Wears Product
                                                02:32 What Musubi Builds
                                                04:51 AI for Human Moderation
                                                09:59 Adversaries and Asymmetry
                                                11:48 Early Days and Low Latency
                                                13:35 First Prototype Slice
                                                15:33 Traditional ML Meets LLMs
                                                19:52 Benchmarking Against Humans
                                                23:09 LLM as Judge and Policy Gaps
                                                29:53 From Prototype to Platform
                                                31:15 Customer Onboarding Reverse Demos
                                                36:08 Custom Models Per Customer
                                                38:05 Fine Tuning vs Training
                                                39:14 Embedding Driven Classification
                                                40:04 Cost and Latency Tradeoffs
                                                43:21 Productizing Customization
                                                49:16 Scaling Prototypes to Production
                                                51:58 Golden Sets and Policy Loops
                                                56:17 Coaching Customers Safely
                                                01:02:06 Gamified Feedback Signals
                                                01:06:19 Agentic Toolkit Roadmap
                                                01:09:05 Workflow Orchestration Future
                                                01:12:06 Wrap Up and Thanks

                                                1 hr 13 min
                                              • Building Lorikeet: How AI Humility and a Dual-Agent Architecture Are Redefining Customer Support

                                                Guests:

                                                • Jamie Hall, Co-founder & CTO, Lorikeet
                                                • Xharmagne Carandang, Product Engineer, Lorikeet
                                                • Rona Wang, Product Engineer, Lorikeet
                                                • In this episode:

                                                  • How Lorikeet evolved from failed ops tools to a full AI customer support concierge
                                                  • The dual-agent architecture: Concierge for customer tickets, Coach for configuration and ongoing improvement
                                                  • Why "AI humility" — defaulting to human handoff when uncertain — is a core design principle
                                                  • How Lorikeet integrates with Zendesk and Intercom instead of replacing them
                                                  • The UX evolution from workflow builder to conversational interface — and why the blank chat box is still hard
                                                  • "Resolution in the loop": how human agents unblock the AI without taking over a ticket
                                                  • Why guardrails need to be domain-specific — the cannabis company story
                                                  • How customers define their own evals and guardrails through the Coach interface
                                                  • Using AI to diagnose failure modes in traces and automatically suggest fixes
                                                  • Lorikeet's product engineering culture: every engineer asks weekly what they learned from a customer
                                                  • Resources & Links:

                                                    • Lorikeet — AI customer support concierge for enterprises in regulated industries
                                                    • Gradient Labs on Just Now Possible — another AI agent team in regulated financial services
                                                    • Neople on Just Now Possible — AI digital coworkers with a similar training-by-conversation approach
                                                    • Incident.io on Just Now Possible — AI SRE with multi-agent hypothesis investigation
                                                    • Chapters

                                                      00:00 Meet the Team

                                                      01:05 What Lorikeet Builds
                                                      02:34 Origin Story and Early Missteps
                                                      06:42 Finding the Real Support Pain
                                                      07:37 Why AI Fits Support Work
                                                      11:16 First Prototype and Early Evals
                                                      14:42 Design Partners and Selling the CLI
                                                      16:30 Product Mindset and the Real Moat
                                                      19:47 Rona Joins and Scaling Up
                                                      21:02 Milestones Voice Actions Escalation
                                                      23:48 Integrations with Zendesk Intercom
                                                      25:59 How the Agent Works Today
                                                      28:30 Coach Agent and Configuration UX
                                                      32:58 SOPs to Test Cases
                                                      34:35 Refund Flow Setup
                                                      36:12 Coach Conversational UI
                                                      38:12 Hybrid UX Guidance
                                                      40:46 Resolution in Loop
                                                      43:17 Collaboration Middle Ground
                                                      49:40 Process Maturity Limits
                                                      53:30 Confidence and Guardrails
                                                      55:59 Customer Defined Guardrails
                                                      01:01:14 Trace Diagnosis Agent
                                                      01:03:14 Product Engineers Culture
                                                      01:07:46 Closing Thoughts

                                                      1 hr 9 min
                                                    • Building Rhea's Factory: How AI-Designed Enzymes Could Finally Solve Plastic Recycling

                                                      Guests

                                                      • Arzu Sandıkçı, Co-founder & CEO, Rhea's Factory
                                                      • Mert Topcu, Co-founder, Rhea's Factory
                                                      • In this episode:

                                                        • Why only 10% of plastic gets recycled—and why mechanical and chemical methods hit a ceiling
                                                        • How enzymatic recycling breaks plastic all the way back to its original monomers, unlike traditional methods that just shorten polymer chains
                                                        • Why enzymes are selective: they can target specific plastic types even in mixed waste streams
                                                        • The discovery of a plastic-eating bacteria in Japan that opened the door to enzymatic recycling
                                                        • How AlphaFold and the Nobel Prize in Chemistry transformed what's possible in enzyme engineering
                                                        • How Rhea's Factory uses protein language models (PLMs) and multi-step AI pipelines to design novel enzymes computationally
                                                        • The evolution from a human-orchestrated pipeline to an agentic AI scientist
                                                        • How guardrails at each pipeline step keep the AI pointed in the right direction without limiting exploration
                                                        • Why wet lab data—even just hundreds of proprietary data points—can be enough to train a powerful domain-specific prediction model
                                                        • Why Mert sometimes wants the model to hallucinate (and how high temperature settings help explore the full enzyme design space)
                                                        • The business constraint: enzymatic recycling must compete economically with cheap, oil-based plastic production
                                                        • What's next: a process agent, a 5,000-ton demo plant in California, and enzymes for new plastic types
                                                        • Resources & Links

                                                          • Rhea's Factory — Enzymatic plastic recycling technology
                                                          • AlphaFold — DeepMind's AI system for protein structure prediction (inspiration for the Nobel Prize in Chemistry)
                                                          • Maven AI Evals Course — The course Teresa took to learn about evals (35% off with Teresa's affiliate link)
                                                          • Chapters

                                                            00:00 Meet the Founders

                                                            01:50 Why Plastic Circularity
                                                            03:19 Mechanical vs True Recycling
                                                            04:52 Biology as the New Tool
                                                            07:20 Necklace and Pearls Analogy
                                                            13:22 Low Energy Reactor Process
                                                            17:33 Origin Story and PET Enzyme
                                                            22:52 Protein Folding and AlphaFold
                                                            28:32 AI Designed Enzymes
                                                            34:28 Protein Language Models Stack
                                                            37:14 Multi Step Protein Generation
                                                            39:00 Building on Foundation Models
                                                            40:50 Lab First Success Metrics
                                                            43:10 From Human to Agentic Orchestration
                                                            43:59 Problem Statements as Inputs
                                                            46:18 Guardrails at Every Stage
                                                            47:48 Prediction Models and Data Limits
                                                            50:03 Industrial Reality and Cost
                                                            52:30 Agentic Parallels and Orchestrators
                                                            57:45 Impact on Timelines and Diversity
                                                            01:03:23 When Hallucination Helps
                                                            01:04:09 Scaling Up and Process Agents
                                                            01:06:56 Enzyme Blends for Mixed Plastics
                                                            01:07:49 Why Clamshells Aren't Recyclable
                                                            01:09:34 Closing Thoughts and Thanks

                                                            1 hr 11 min
                                                          • Building AI Employees for Hospitality: How AITropos Takes Orders Where Customers Already Are

                                                            Guests

                                                            • Santi Marchiori, CEO, AITropos
                                                            • Juan Haedo, CTO, AITropos
                                                            • You'll hear how they

                                                              • Spent two years exploring hundreds of startup ideas before finding the specific niche of AI-powered order taking in hospitality
                                                              • Went through three product iterations — hardware for waiters, a waiter app, and finally a customer-facing WhatsApp agent — before landing on the right form factor
                                                              • Identified order item identification accuracy as their single most important KPI
                                                              • Chose a tools-based agent architecture over MCP or pipelines to hit real-time response speed requirements
                                                              • Built a parallelized pipeline that searches for multiple products simultaneously and pre-fetches product context before the agent even calls a tool
                                                              • Use smaller, fast sub-agents to build an "immediate system prompt" that injects relevant data into each turn without extra tool calls
                                                              • Test with thousands of agent-simulated customer conversations run overnight before deploying to new venues
                                                              • Reduced new customer onboarding from three months to a few weeks — and continue to shrink it as they build domain templates
                                                              • Resources & Links

                                                                • AITropos
                                                                • Chapters:

                                                                  00:00 Meet the Founders
                                                                  00:59 What Tropos Builds
                                                                  01:51 AI vs Human Touch
                                                                  06:17 Restaurant Use Cases
                                                                  08:16 Why Hospitality
                                                                  10:47 Finding the Wedge
                                                                  16:00 Early Prototypes
                                                                  16:46 Hard Parts of Ordering
                                                                  18:03 Speed and Channels
                                                                  21:15 Iteration and Model Jumps
                                                                  30:50 Customer Order Flow
                                                                  35:48 Menu Discovery Question
                                                                  36:07 Menus Inside WhatsApp
                                                                  36:50 Finding the Chat Entry
                                                                  37:37 Why Text Ordering Wins
                                                                  38:30 Under the Hood Pipeline
                                                                  40:54 Tools Over Workflows
                                                                  45:05 Tooling and Prompt Composer
                                                                  49:29 Preloading Context Fast
                                                                  54:02 Founder Learning Mindset
                                                                  57:21 Evaluating Order Accuracy
                                                                  01:00:03 Testing and Human Takeover
                                                                  01:03:56 Onboarding and Scaling Up
                                                                  01:06:10 Whats Next and Wrap

                                                                  1 hr 8 min
                                                                • Building Todoist Ramble: How Doist Turned Voice Braindumps into Real-Time Task Capture

                                                                  Guests

                                                                  • Ernesto Garcia, Front-end Product Engineer, Doist
                                                                  • Thomas Jost, Backend Software Engineer, Doist
                                                                  • Hugo Fauquenoi, Product Manager, Doist
                                                                  • In this episode

                                                                    • How Doist's 2-3 month AI exploration phase led to Ramble — and why voice-to-task emerged as the top contender
                                                                    • The user research insight behind Ramble: people using pen and paper or ChatGPT voice to brainstorm tasks before committing them to Todoist
                                                                    • Why Ramble skips transcription entirely and processes raw audio directly with a Gemini live audio model
                                                                    • How the model makes tool calls (add task, edit task, delete task) in real time while the user is still speaking — no text output at all
                                                                    • Designing for the driving use case: sound effects as audio confirmation cues alongside visual task cards
                                                                    • The challenge of teaching an LLM to capture tasks literally without over-interpreting or doing them — and how temperature tuning played a role
                                                                    • Date handling complexity: injecting the current date, normalizing to days vs. months, and always outputting dates in English for the natural language parser
                                                                    • Building an LLM-judge eval system with 20+ language recordings from 100+ employees across 35 countries to catch prompt regressions
                                                                    • Why Doist chose to inject the full project/label list into the system prompt instead of building a RAG pipeline — and why it worked
                                                                    • How easy correction beats perfect first-time accuracy in natural language interfaces
                                                                    • What's next: multimodal task capture from images and text blobs, Apple Watch support, and automation integrations
                                                                    • Resources & Links

                                                                      • Todoist
                                                                      • Doist
                                                                      • Google Vertex AI (Gemini)
                                                                      • Chapters:

                                                                        00:00 Meet the Doist Team
                                                                        01:40 What Doist Builds
                                                                        02:27 Ramble Voice to Tasks
                                                                        04:16 Why Voice Matters
                                                                        07:42 Brain Dump Insight
                                                                        09:46 Prototyping With LLMs
                                                                        11:08 Live Audio Workflow
                                                                        14:32 Driving Friendly UX
                                                                        18:47 Tool Only Architecture
                                                                        26:06 Evals and Multilingual Testing
                                                                        28:41 Taming Dates and Time
                                                                        33:28 Fixing Date Confusion
                                                                        33:43 Defining Task Boundaries
                                                                        34:34 Capture Versus Do
                                                                        37:17 Tuning Creativity Levels
                                                                        39:01 Evals Across Languages
                                                                        41:23 Feedback and Regressions
                                                                        44:09 Model Upgrades Over Time
                                                                        46:33 Projects Labels Context
                                                                        51:40 Handling Ambiguous Names
                                                                        54:23 Whats Next Multimodal
                                                                        58:48 From Capture to Execution
                                                                        59:46 Closing Thoughts

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                                                                      How AI products come to life—straight from the builders themselves. In each episode, we dive deep into how teams spotted a customer problem, experimented with AI, prototyped solutions, and shipped…