On hour two of Flames Talk, Pat Steinberg, Wes Gilbertson, and Derek Wills go around the Daily Flames Roundtable and dive into their thoughts on how they assess the season for Justin Kirkland after being placed on waivers, and if they could've predicted how big a step Macklin Celebrini has taken this season.

(24:58) Our Pacific Division insider, Jonathan Davis joins the show! JD stops by to take us for a spin around the division and bring the latest on the next opponent for the Flames, the San Jose Sharks.

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