Justin Searle, director of ICS security at InGuardians and a SANS Institute ICS security senior instructor, joins the Aperture podcast to discuss penetration testing ICS environments.  Justin is a leader in the ICS security community, a 21-year veteran immersed in conducting and teach security assessments worldwide.  In this episode, Justin discusses the challenges in pen-testing production industrial environments, the state of pen-testing tooling for ICS, how digital transformation and IT/OT convergence are changing the way cybersecurity is managed inside enterprises, and also industrial cybersecurity threats facing companies.