Today we're joined by Kai West, ambient musician and PhD candidate in musicology at the University of Michigan. We talk about the wonders of the Pladask Matrise, the peculiarities of our particular corner of guitar culture, and blow right past "are pedals instruments?" to get to "are pedals collaborators?" A great time is had by all.

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