In this episode we speak with Kara Swisher, the American journalist, author and podcaster who has been covering the tech sector for 30 years - and now finds herself at the epicentre of public debate over the convergence of tech and power in the new Trump administration.

Swisher hosts the podcasts On With Kara Swisher, and Pivot, both of which are part of the Vox Media/New York magazine stable. Her tech sector memoir, Burn Book, sub-titled "A Tech Love Story", was released last year. Hosting the conversation - about everything from the nexus between Elon Musk and Donald Trump, to where Swisher finds solace and hope right now - is Good Weekend editor Katrina Strickland.

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