I speak with Katherine about a bizarre, relatively new outgrowth of the American psyche, the phenomenon of the school shooter. Beyond the "we need fewer/more guns" debate, there is a numb silence about the worldview that fuels the actual motivations of these young men. They are labeled and put away in the monster pile. But could it be that, in some ways, they see further than we can?

Katherine Dee is *the internet historian* bar none, and she's been doing some necessary spelunking in the neglected digital footprints of people like Adam Lanza, with startling results. You can find her work on her Substack at defaultfriend.substack.com and on her podcast, The Computer Room.