This is another recorded conversation where I am talking to my older son over the phone.

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This is a recorded conversation where my ex-husband is denying being abusive to our older son even though he told law-enforcement that he was mean to him and did not specify how his father was mean to him and also after his father had been reported by the school to CPS for physical abuse.

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This is another voicemail with that I am leaving to try to communicate with my ex-husband regarding the exchange of our younger son.

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This is a phone call where I have said that Alex is welcome to spend the weekend with me and Carl says that he will probably let him.

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This is another concerning phone call where I am trying to speak with my older son and his father says he is right there and it is quite obvious that I cannot hear him and I am not able to confirm that he is really there or that my ex-husband is telling the truth or where my child is.

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This is another voicemail that I left calling to check on Alex.

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This is the voicemail I left calling to check on Alex.

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This is the phone call where I tried to call and talk to Alex and it was not a normal phone call with him I could tell something was wrong I have always been concerned for the safety of my children with her father.

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This is a recorded conversation where I am talking to my older son and he is explaining to me that he was sick the night before and throwing up and his father tried to stop him from throwing up and unfortunately I am not quite sure what he meant by that. As a mother this was an alarming phone call especially knowing that his father did not take him to the doctor to get treatment for being sick.

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This is a recording of the voicemail that I am leaving for my ex-husband and telling him to stop sending me harassing emails and blaming me because her child is sick.

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