Wherein we are joined by convicted insurrectionist Katsiaryna Shmatsina. The estimable Ms. Shmatsina recently had the distinction of being tried in absentia in her native Belarus of trying to overturn that country's oh-so-very-democratic election and was sentenced to ten years in prison. She wrote about the experience on Lawfare and discussed it with me on the Lawfare podcast. She joins from her on-the-run secret on-the-lam location. Be careful, she might convert you to a life a crime!

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