Jay and Kelly talk about what we got from our fathers, both good and bad. We also talk about the genius of George Carlin, living in the shadow of your parents, Crossroads School, Judd Apatow, taking care of you parents, the Emmy Awards, defining yourself, fans, wanting to make people laugh, and how pity sex is just fine.

Kelly Carlin-McCall is an author, storyteller, depth psychologist, transformational coach and television producer. Her solo show, A Carlin Home Companion, was expanded and then published as a memoir by St. Martin’s Press in 2015. Her television work includes being a producer of the showtime show, The Green Room with Paul Provenza, and in 2023, she won an Emmy as executive producer of the HBO documentary, George Carlin’s American Dream. Her 20+ years of study and practice in Zen Buddhism, Co-Active Coaching and Imaginal Psychology are the foundation for her creative work and for her transformational programs through her Humans on the Verge community. She is proudly deeply involved in The National Comedy Center as an Industry Advisory Board member, and proud to be a Chautauquan since 2017 when she helped to launch the first ever comedy week hereEDITING NOTES: KELLY CARLIN I think incorrectly she helped stand ups. We can cut that out. .

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