Kelly Leonard, Vice President, Creative Strategy, Innovation and Business Development at The Second City and host of the “Getting to Yes, And…” podcast, joins John Williams to talk about a recent interview he did with Dr. Sunita Sah who talks about the power of ‘no.’ Kelly also talks about an interview he did with author Kurt Gray about how to find common ground with people during these divisive times. Kelly, once again, proves that he is the best storyteller in Chicago.