Did two teenagers attempt to execute the perfect crime back in 1994? Sebastian Burns has been described as the mastermind who used a metal baseball bat to kill his friend Atif Rafay's mother, father, and sister, while Atif stood by. But what was their motive? 48 Hours correspondent Peter Van Sant talks about what it was like sitting across from these two young men in prison. 
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Did two teenagers attempt to execute the perfect crime back in 1994? Sebastian Burns has been described as the mastermind who used a metal baseball bat to kill his friend Atif Rafay's mother, father, and sister, while Atif stood by. But what was their motive? 48 Hours correspondent Peter Van Sant talks about what it was like sitting across from these two young men in prison. Get early, ad-free access to episodes of Killer Conversation by subscribing to 48 Hours Plus on Apple Podcasts. The series is widely available everywhere else you get your podcasts. Subscribe to 48 Hours+: https://apple.co/4aEgENo To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Did two teenagers attempt to execute the perfect crime back in 1994? Sebastian Burns has been described as the mastermind who used a metal baseball bat to kill his friend Atif Rafay's mother, father, and sister, while Atif stood by. But what was their motive? 48 Hours correspondent Peter Van Sant talks about what it was like sitting across from these two young men in prison.&nbsp;
Get early, ad-free access to episodes of Killer Conversation by subscribing to 48 Hours Plus on Apple Podcasts. The series is widely available everywhere else you get your podcasts.&nbsp;
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Killer Conversation: Sebastian Burns & Atif Rafay - Part 1

“48 Hours” uncovers the narrative behind crime and justice cases that have left a lasting mark on society. Award-winning CBS News correspondents thoughtfully examine the complexities of each crime by transporting you to the heart of the investigation through key evidence and gripping interviews with critical figures from the case. The unmatched reporting has made a tangible difference in countless lives, leading to the exoneration of wrongly convicted individuals and the reopening — and resolution — of previously closed cold cases.

Listen to a new “48 Hours” episode every Monday and then go deeper into the case on Tuesdays with the immersive “Post Mortem” series — producers and correspondents join host Anne-Marie Green to discuss key evidence, dead ends, mishaps, and stranger-than-fiction twists they faced in the field. Also available on the 48 Hours YouTube channel. Plus, every Wednesday and Thursday, we’ll revisit a classic “48 Hours” episode. 

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“48 Hours” uncovers the narrative behind crime and justice cases that have left a lasting mark on society. Award-winning CBS News correspondents thoughtfully examine the complexities of each crime by transporting you to the heart of the investigation through key evidence and gripping interviews with critical figures from the case. The unmatched reporting has made a tangible difference in countless lives, leading to the exoneration of wrongly convicted individuals and the reopening — and resolution — of previously closed cold cases. Listen to a new “48 Hours” episode every Monday and then go deeper into the case on Tuesdays with the immersive “Post Mortem” series — producers and correspondents join host Anne-Marie Green to discuss key evidence, dead ends, mishaps, and stranger-than-fiction twists they faced in the field. Also available on the 48 Hours YouTube channel. Plus, every Wednesday and Thursday, we’ll revisit a classic “48 Hours” episode. Get ad-free access to "48 Hours" podcasts by subscribing to 48 Hours+ on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4aEgENo.

“48 Hours” uncovers the narrative behind crime and justice cases that have left a lasting mark on society. Award-winning CBS News correspondents thoughtfully examine the complexities of each crime by transporting you to the heart of the investigation through key evidence and gripping interviews with critical figures from the case. The unmatched reporting has made a tangible difference in countless lives, leading to the exoneration of wrongly convicted individuals and the reopening — and resolution — of previously closed cold cases.

Listen to a new “48 Hours” episode every Monday&nbsp;and&nbsp;then go deeper into the case on Tuesdays with the immersive “Post Mortem” series — producers and correspondents join host Anne-Marie Green to discuss key evidence, dead ends, mishaps, and stranger-than-fiction twists they faced in the field. Also available on the 48 Hours YouTube channel. Plus, every Wednesday and Thursday, we’ll revisit a classic “48 Hours” episode.&nbsp;

Get ad-free access to "48 Hours" podcasts by subscribing to 48 Hours+ on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4aEgENo.

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