“Black women are the moral compass of this country,” Kim Crayton said, referring to the United States in this episode of The New Stack Makers. But it’s exhausting work. And repetitive, to continue to offer the same basics to white people of what’s wrong with a country, an economy, and a tech industry that’s systemically built on anti-Blackness.

“Tech always thinks in binaries, which gets on my nerves. People of color, people from marginalized communities, we survive living in the gray. There is no right, wrong, good, bad because it changes situationally. So you have people who want to flip the tables. And then folks act like the only alternative is to prepare marginalized communities to go into spaces and work in places where they’re going to be harmed,” Crayton said.