Kinda Sorta Brown

“There is no beginning and there is no end, and this drum is a big part of who we are as people…I use my drum when I sing to people and I refer to this drum as the Heartbeat of Mother Earth”.

(If you’re curious about how this episode got its name and/or the full context of our conversation with Ronnie Preston, Cultural & Education Programs Director at the American Indian Center in Chicago, make sure to tune in to this episode’s Brown Breakdown!)

At the core of “Heartbeat of Mother Earth”, KSB is taking a look at the colonialist policies that have affected Indigenous communities, and how Indigenous people have fought against oppression to be present in the making of futures where they reclaim their rights and space, and rewrite the narratives of who Indigenous people are.

Thanks for joining us KSFam, we hope you enjoy this episode ⭐️
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This Episode’s Host: Fernanda Ponce and Narvella Sefah

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Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Fernanda Ponce (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team), Glen McGuire (Content Team), Zara Salman (Content Team), Memphis Cutchlow (Audio Team), Aaron Dyas (Audio Team), and Sam Herrera (Front End Marketing Team)

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Happy new year KSFam and welcome back to a brand-new season of KSB! We’ve missed you all so much (as much as you’ve missed us we hope) and sitting here knowing the kinds of episodes we’ll be dropping in ✨the future✨, all we can say is, get hyped!! The new year is always dedicated to new beginnings and looking to what’s ahead, so we’re sitting down for our sixth season, “This is Our Future”, to discuss what exactly that looks like.



Your caring, loving, and overall wholesome hosts for this season are Dinah Clottey, Nicole Maria Mateo, Jon Brooks, Narvella Sefah, and Fernanda Ponce. The team has gotten together for this episode to chat about their anxieties about the future, which can no doubt be nerve-wracking, but they have some wise words to offer on how exactly to overcome them.



As always, you won’t want to miss this episode, so sit back, relax, and enjoy, “This Is Our Future”.
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This Episode’s Hosts: Dinah Clottey, Jon Brooks, Nicole Maria Mateo, Narvella Sefah and Fernanda Ponce

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), Fernanda Ponce (Content Creator), Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), andNicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Supporting members: Glen McGuire (Content Team), Zara Salman (Content Team), Aaron Dyas (Audio Team), Memphis Cutchlow (Audio Team), and Sam Herrera (Front End Marketing Team)

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

In the finale for our sixth season “Art, Life, Resistance”, artists from all across the UChicago campus have partnered with the KSB Team to bring you an intimate look into what it means to create and share art for one’s self and in one’s community. This episode features breakdancers, sculptors, poets, and many more diverse artists who you won’t want to miss! For the KSB Team, it is an honor to feature all of these talented voices on the episode and we hope that this art exhibition delivered through your ears will make you feel the warmth, passion, drive, and artistry of stories and communities.

This is a very special episode for our team as we say bye (for now) to Daisy Okoye, our Lead Content Creator. Thank you Daisy for all of your dedication to the KSB Team and for giving life to the KSB mission each and every single season, and every single episode. The KSB Team and the KSFam will miss you immensely, but we wish you the best for your journey ahead!

With Love,
KSB
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This Episode’s Host: Hope and Daisy

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Artists of color are constantly being told how they can and should engage with their art and consumers are always placing their own artistic expressions onto pieces that aren’t their own. But the real beauty of art is that art can be anything. And within its “anything-ness” art carries meaning, identity, and experience. But who gets to determine what one's art is? And how do BIPOC artists feel about others dictating what their art should be known as? What does it mean to police artistry?
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This Episode’s Hosts: Nicole Maria Mateo and Chase Leito

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Countless artists of color have been erased from history books. In recent years, historians have been widening which artists receive their due recognition (like with Beethoven!), with many who work explicitly to fight whitewashed history. From composers of the classical era to iconic dancers of the 1900s, we’ll be taking a look at how artists have been forced to conceal their melanin - or how they have embraced and celebrated it in their art. In this episode, Narvella and Hope come to uncover the pure beauty of Black art and how Black and Brown folks have built the foundation of several art forms. In this episode, we are joined by our amazing guest Honey Crawford, a Collegiate Assistant Professor of Theatre and Performance Studies with the University of Chicago, with interests including global feminisms, critical race theory, public spectacle, and protest while centering her studies on the Afro Brazilian cultural performance. Tune in to hear more about the ways we can appreciate Black and Brown art, artists, and their history.
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This Episode’s Hosts: Narvella Sefah and Hope Houston

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Comedy is a vessel for the truth. Ever wondered why every great joke, every surprised laugh, feels like a realization? The art of laughing at oneself and the surrounding world, even when one might be more inclined to cry, is the art form by which movies like “Get Out” can elicit tears of laughter and sorrow, simultaneously. This is why the varied and many experiences of Black people in predominantly white societies, from driving while Black to exercising while Black, can be so tactfully spun into stories that get crowds out of their seats in an uproar, shocked by the humor inlaid in misfortune. Our own podcast team has quite a few of those stories, too, specifically about attending the University of Chicago. Join Lena in this episode as she introduces KSB’s own excursion into satirical comedy — our top 10 finalist submission to the spring 2021 NPR College Podcast Competition: “PWI-ing While Black”!
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This Episode’s Hosts: Lena Diasti, Hope Houston, Jon Brooks, Dinah Clottey, Chase Leito, and Daisy Okoye

Join the KSFam! We saved you a seat at the table. Link up with us on all available social media platforms:

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For further inquiries, email us: [email protected]

Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team)

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Art does not simply “imitate” life. Art IS life, in its most unadulterated, unabridged forms. Our brightest moments of humanity and darkest hours of adversity are recorded, without fail, in a world full of color, language, movement, sound, taste, space, and time. From racial and social injustice to a world-altering pandemic, art became the life raft of many. Or, rather, it was exposed for what it always has been: a universal healing agent, a fearless tool of self-definition, an extension of our consciousness, and so much more. But how exactly does art make such an incredible impact on our individual human experiences and our capacity to grow, learn, endure, suffer, and love as a community? In Season 5 of Kinda Sorta Brown, we ask the big questions about art in our everyday lives and in times of immense turmoil. Tune in to this kick-off episode, and hear our hosts for the season (Narvella, Hope, Lena, Chase, and Nicole) discuss the transformative role of a major art form (from vocal performance to generational knowledge) in their lives!

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This Episode’s Hosts: Narvella Sefah, Hope Houston, Lena Diasti, Chase Leito, and Nicole Maria Mateo.

Join the KSFam! We saved you a seat at the table. Link up with us on all available social media platforms:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kindasortabrown/
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For further inquiries, email us: [email protected]

Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

KSB Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

KSB Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Hopelessly romantic people are people who like to dream. Often, this means living out romantic fantasies through the film industry. But if you happen to be a Latinx person of color like this week's host, Fernanda, you might have noticed it's often hard to see yourself and the people of your community represented in romantic films. Latinx stories and characters in Hollywood have repeatedly been pushed to the margins. In today's episode, we're exploring exactly why that is and what it means to see more recognition and representation in Hollywood.

Joining Fernanda is LA film critic and freelance writer, Carlos Aguilar (@carlos_film) to discuss movies, representation, and more in the Brown Breakdown.
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This Episode’s Host: Fernanda Ponce

Join the KSFam! We saved you a seat at the table. Link up with us on all available social media platforms:

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

Where Is the (Self) Love?: Beyond Beauty Standards takes a dive into Self-Love and Beauty Standards for minority communities and looks at how geography can be intertwined in them. With numerous personal anecdotes from around the country and world this episode aims to get the scoop on the self-love journey of People of Color. Get some tips on how to continue or begin your journey, as well as confined in those with a similar journey to yours. This episode we heard Marina, Sahana, Rose,Evelyn, Aidevo, Sarah, Shelsea, and Brianna, and were joined by Chicago-based hair stylist Lizzy, you can find lizzy on instagram @lizzy_baybe and her hair account @e_units_ which has a link to book appointments. We hope you find the self love.
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This Episode’s Host: Narvella Sefah (Front End Marketing Team Contributor)

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF using this folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown

On revolutionary love is an exploration of the stereotypes that often plague communities of color and how we as a collective have flipped those tropes on their heads in the past and in the present. Starting with the once deemed radical demonstration of self love with the Black Panthers to more common sayings of today, the demystification of: “black don’t crack”, “brown don’t frown”, “asian don’t raisin”. How truthful are these sayings? And how do we make these generalizations valid with generations of traditional self care practices? All of these questions will be answered in this episode. We'll also hear from Danielle Gray, a beauty expert and two other KSFam listeners. And if you didn't know already, POC self love IS revolutionary, so hop on for the ride and join the revolution.
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This Episode’s Host: Nicole Maria Mateo

Join the KSFam! We saved you a seat at the table. Link up with us on all available social media platforms:

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Audio transcriptions of KSB episodes are here! Access this episode’s transcription PDF here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1XNBWRGMWaP5l2FzmHItG3ap-p0AOEkpM

Lead Contributors: Lena Diasti (Executive Producer), Hope Houston (Production Manager), Jon Brooks (Social Media Coordinator), Dinah Clottey (Outreach Manager), Chase Leito (Audio Engineer), and Daisy Okoye (Content Creator).

Supporting Contributors: Narvella Sefah (Front-End Team), Fernanda Ponce (Content Team), Nicole Maria Mateo (Audio Team).

Out of 4,000 GLOBAL submissions, KSB was chosen as a WINNER of the SPOTIFY NEXT WAVE PODCAST COMPETITION!! See us on the Spotify Student Hub page here:
https://open.spotify.com/genre/student-page

KSB was a TOP 10 FINALIST for NPR’s 2021 College Podcast Competition! Check out our entry “PWI-ing While Black” on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-306628760/pwi-ing-while-black

Kinda Sorta Brown is a University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast, as shown here: https://www.uc3p.org/kindasortabrown