After the success of the Total SF "Star Trek IV" movie night, host Peter Hartlaub interviews Kirk Thatcher, who played the punk on the bus and was an associate producer on the film. In addition to all things "ST IV," Thatcher talks about the rest of his career, including getting hired by Industrial Light & Magic as a teen to work on "Return of the Jedi," and writing and directing many Muppets projects.

Produced by Peter Hartlaub. Music is "The Tide Will Rise" by the Sunset Shipwrecks off the album "Community" and cable car bell-ringing by 8-time champion Byron Cobb.

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