Kitchen Table Finance

By David Shotwell CFP(r) and Nick Nauta CFP(r)

Pull up a chair with David and Nick for warm, real conversations about money, purpose, and building the life you truly want. Focused on clarity and confidence, they help you move from uncertainty to a... more

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June 03, 2024S3E20 – Dealing With Increasing Insurance Rates
Episode Summary
In this episode, we tackle the pressing issue of rising insurance rates with our special guest, Ben Rathbun. Ben is the President and CEO of Rathbun Insurance Agency, an independent agency with over 68 years of history. He brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to help us understand what’s happening in the insurance market and why rates are going up.
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Key Discussion Points
Introduction to Ben Rathbun and the Rathbun Agency
Understanding the current insurance market landscape
Key factors driving up insurance rates
The role of risk management in insurance
Practical tips on how to manage and mitigate insurance costs
The importance of educating customers about their insurance policies
Guest Speaker
Ben Rathbun
Ben Rathbun is the President and CEO of Rathbun Insurance Agency. With a legacy that spans over six decades, Rathbun Insurance prides itself on being an education-centric company that helps clients understand and manage their insurance needs.
Quotes from the Episode
“Everyone has to buy insurance, but who do people buy insurance from? People they like and people who educate them.”
“We consider ourselves very much an education company that happens to sell insurance.”
“It’s not my job just to sell you a policy. It’s also to help you understand your exposure and how to protect yourself.”
Call to Action
If you’re looking for advice on managing your insurance in these challenging times, don’t miss this episode with Ben Rathbun. Listen now and gain valuable insights on how to protect yourself and your assets.
Subscribe to our podcast for more expert insights on managing your finances and staying ahead in the market.
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May 28, 2024S3E19 – Using CDs and Bonds in Retirement
Welcome to another episode of Kitchen Table Finance, where we dive deep into financial strategies to help you make the most out of your retirement. In today’s episode, we’re tackling a common question: “Should I put everything into CDs or bonds when I retire?”
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Episode Highlights
The Common Misconception
Many retirees think, “I’m retiring, so I should put everything in CDs or bonds to avoid risk.”
While CDs and bonds are safer investments, there’s a more strategic way to use them in your retirement plan.
Proper Use of CDs and Bonds
CDs and bonds are indeed useful for retirement, but they should be part of a larger, diversified strategy.
We discuss how to balance these safe investments with other asset classes to optimize your retirement portfolio.
Understanding Cash Investments
Despite being considered straightforward, many people struggle with understanding how CDs, money markets, and cash investments fit into their overall financial picture.
We explore how the current high-yield environment for cash investments is an anomaly and how to navigate it.
Historical Context
Reflecting on how discussions around cash investments have evolved over the past decade.
Current opportunities: High-yield savings accounts offering 5% returns and how they impact your decisions.
Practical Advice
Cash is ideal for contingency funds or planned expenses within the next 12-36 months.
Just because you hit retirement doesn’t mean you should put all your money into low-risk investments.
Long-term retirement income should include a mix of assets to ensure growth and sustainability over 20-30 years or more.
Interesting Tidbits
Did you know there’s a bank offering a 100-year CD? What does that mean for you?
Key Takeaways
Diversification remains crucial even in retirement; don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
Utilize CDs and bonds as part of a broader strategy to balance safety and growth.
Stay informed about the current market environment and adjust your investments accordingly.
Call to Action
Enjoying our insights? Make sure to subscribe to our podcast for more valuable tips on managing your finances. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover? Leave a comment or reach out to us directly—we’d love to hear from you!
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Tune in next week as we continue to explore effective strategies for a secure and prosperous retirement!
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May 20, 2024S3E18 – Relocating During Retirement
Welcome to another enlightening episode of the Kitchen Table Finance podcast! In this episode, Dave and Nick dive deep into the intricate world of relocating during retirement, examining how recent economic shifts have impacted this significant life decision.
Key Discussion Points:
Changing Landscape of Real Estate:
Nick and Dave discuss how the real estate market has evolved post-pandemic. While interest rates were historically low, they have since risen, creating a unique set of challenges and opportunities for retirees considering relocation.
The unexpected resilience of the property market despite rising interest rates, and how this affects decisions around selling and buying homes.
Interest Rates and Their Impact:
Insights into why some homeowners are hesitant to sell their properties with low-interest mortgages, seeing them as valuable financial assets in the current economic climate.
The Wall Street Journal’s perspective on low-interest mortgages as strong-performing financial assets.
Traditional vs. Modern Retirement Housing Trends:
How the conventional approach to retirement—selling a larger family home and downsizing—has become less straightforward in today’s economy.
The scarcity of smaller, single-story homes suitable for retirees compared to the abundance of large-family homes built over the past two decades.
The Double Squeeze:
Analysis of the dual pressure on the market for smaller homes: retirees looking to downsize and millennials seeking starter homes. This has led to increased competition and higher prices for such properties.
The interplay between an aging population’s housing needs and the influx of younger buyers into the market.
Financial and Emotional Considerations:
Relocating during retirement is not just a financial decision but also an emotional and practical one. The challenges include navigating the housing market and dealing with the stress and logistical aspects of moving.
Dave’s observation: If relocating during retirement were purely a financial calculus, the decision might often be to stay put. However, the reality involves more nuanced personal and emotional factors.
Practical Tips for Prospective Retirees:
Nick and Dave share practical advice for those considering relocation in retirement, including how to evaluate the pros and cons, plan for the financial implications, and manage the emotional aspects of such a significant life change.
Conclusion
If you found this episode valuable and want to explore more about managing your finances during retirement, don’t forget to subscribe to our podcast! For personalized advice and insights, join our community by signing up for our newsletter at srbadvisors.com.
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Thank you for tuning into the “Kitchen Table Finance” podcast. We’re here to help you navigate your journey toward a financially secure and fulfilling retirement. Until next time, stay informed and stay empowered!
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May 13, 2024S3E17 – Retirement Planning Headlines – April 2024
Welcome back to our much-anticipated April 2024 edition of “Retirement Planning Headlines,” where we save you the hassle of combing through endless financial articles. This month, we’ve even had listeners chime in with topics for our deep-dive discussions.
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Articles Discussed in this Episode
5 Investing Mistakes Anyone Can Make | Morningstar
“Do as I say Not as I do” by Christine Benz
Where she falls short of following the advice she knows and often gives
Too much cash, too few bonds, slow to make contributions, too much employer stock
The New Math of Driving Your Car Till The Wheels Fall Off
With the cost of car ownership going up the case for driving a car until the wheels fall off has grown stronger
US vehicle average hit a record high of 12.5 years in 2023 – increasing for the sixth straight year
Newer models have become expensive to repair
Unloading your vehicle when repair costs 10% more than what you would pay for a new one.
Americans can’t stop ‘spaving’ — here’s how to avoid this financial trap
Spending more to save more – Spaving
This can lead to excessive spending
Examples:
Limited time deal
Buy one get one free
Free shipping after spending a certain amount
Spaving is us justifying our desire to buy more – Klontz
Teams of scientists have figured out how to extract more money from you
Ways to Avoid
Quiet the noise – delete shopping apps and unsubscribe from newsletters
Pay with Cash – Less likely to part with dollars
Do the math –
Steer clear of temptation –
order online instead of browsing in-store.
Don’t go to the grocery store hungry
Create shopping “hurdles”
Delete payment details to make purchasing harder
Don’t create accounts buy as a guest
Set time rules
24-hour rules
DWS – Lots of bad math, too… retailers just re-word how they are pricing to make it seem like a deal
Managing Health Care Costs in Retirement
Maintain a healthy lifestyle
Boost your retirement savings
Utilize a Health Savings Account
Consider your retirement age
62 vs 65
Live like you are already retired
DWS – Charlie Munger:
“Nobody survives open heart surgery better than the guy who didn’t need the procedure in the first place.”
Men Who Are Truly Happy In Their Retirement Usually Adopt These Daily Habits
As author Ethan Sterling puts it:
You see, happiness in retirement isn’t about having a bulging bank account or an endless holiday. It’s about how you live your everyday life. Here’s what he found in men who successfully retired
Embrace routine
Stay active
Keep Learning
Stay socially connected
Practice mindfulness
Cherish their relationships
Make time for self-care
Embrace change
Live with gratitude
Retirement Age 65, Most Workers Retire at 62
Most Americans believe they will work until age 65
Research shows that the majority step back from work far earlier, and not by choice
The median age is 62
7-10 stopped working before 65
1/3 cited health issues or disability
Only 2 in 5 did so because they could afford it
Where to Stash Your Cash
Consider liquidity, convenience, safety
4 Finacial Worries to Cross Off Your List
Take things that might happen but are remote possibilities off the list of things you worry about:
Estate tax
Gift tax
That you’ll need hard assets to buy things (economic death spiral)
That the government will start taxing Roth IRAs
General takeaway: if it requires everything to go badly at once, or (like tax changes) political willpower to hurt the bulk of the American middle class, take it off the list. Also if it requires extreme irreversible actions (like fancy trust to avoid estate tax or buying physical gold)
Remember to subscribe and follow our podcast for monthly updates packed with practical advice to guide you through your financial future with clarity and confidence. Stay tuned and stay informed!
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May 06, 2024 S3E16 – Navigating Market Pullbacks and Geopolitical Risk In Retirement
Join Nick and Dave as they discuss concerns around geopolitical tensions in the Middle East, inflation, corporate earnings, and other issues that have led to a market decline, pushing the VIX index of stock market volatility to its highest level in six months.
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After a historically strong start to the year, markets have now pulled back 2.5% to begin the second quarter. In times of market stress, investors need to maintain perspective on critical issues and not overreact to headlines. How can investors understand and weather this period of market volatility?
Rising geopolitical tensions add to market uncertainty
First, tensions escalated in the Middle East due to an attack by Iran on Israel, the first time a direct strike has occurred between the two nations. The attack involved hundreds of drones and missiles launched from Iran and appears to have been designed to allow ample time for Israel and its allies to deploy countermeasures, resulting in minimal damage. While it’s uncertain how Israel might respond to this shot across its bow, many hope that both nations will show restraint and avoid an overt conflict.

These latest developments only add to geopolitical concerns around the world. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the October 7 attack on Israel by Hamas only a year and a half later have already destabilized Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Without diminishing the tragic loss of life and destruction from these conflicts, investors must weigh how such events might impact the global economy, markets, and their portfolios.
Geopolitical headlines can be alarming to investors since they are unlike the typical flow of business and market news. These events are difficult to analyze and their outcomes are challenging to predict since they depend on the actions of individuals and groups with complex histories and motivations.
However, history shows that while geopolitics can impact markets, the effects are typically short-lived. The accompanying chart highlights market returns following major geopolitical events this century. Some events, such as 9/11, changed the world order and had long-lasting effects, even though it was primarily the dot-com bust that led to poor market performance. Other events, such as the war in Ukraine, resulted in higher oil prices which affected inflation and monetary policy. Most of these events did not have long-lasting effects on markets once the situation stabilized.
While today’s conflicts will be closely watched, investors ought to avoid passing judgment with their portfolios. In the long run, markets tend to recover and perform well primarily because business cycles are what matter over years and decades, despite the events that take place over weeks and months.
Stubborn inflation has markets rethinking the number of rate cuts
Second, many measures of inflation have proven to be more stubborn than economists had hoped. The latest Consumer Price Index (CPI) report for March showed that headline inflation remained hotter than anticipated at 3.5% year-over-year, while core inflation, which excludes food and energy prices, rose 3.8%. Rising shelter costs, i.e., the cost of renting and owning a home, are a large reason inflation has not cooled as quickly.
Combined with stronger-than-expected recent job market data, many investors now anticipate that the Fed may cut rates more slowly this year – or not at all. The Fed’s economic projections have suggested all along that it might cut rates three times this year. Market expectations, however, have swung 180 degrees since the start of the year when some believed the Fed could begin cutting rates in March or earlier. Today, markets only expect 2 or 3 rate cuts in 2024.
As always, it’s important for investors to keep these expectations in perspective. What matters for long-term investing is the direction of policy and not the exact timing or magnitude of rate cuts. There are still risks to the Fed’s outlook and the monthly inflation numbers, especially if oil prices rise further due to geopolitical conflicts. However, even if this were to occur, inflation is far more manageable today and no longer requires an emergency monetary response.
Investors should always be prepared for market volatility
Finally, investors should keep the level of market volatility in perspective as well. While the recent 2.5% market decline is the largest since the start of the year, this follows a 10.6% total return in the first quarter. Since last October when the market began to rally, the S&P 500 has gained 28% including dividends. Since the bear market bottom in 2022, the market has gained over 50%.

The accompanying chart shows that the average year experiences significant pullbacks and that this year’s has been small by comparison. Despite these short-term challenges, markets tend to recover and often end on positive notes. This is why maintaining a diversified portfolio can help minimize short-term risk and increase the odds of financial success over time, regardless of whether markets are volatile due to the economy, the Fed, geopolitics, or other factors.

The bottom line? Markets have struggled at the start of the second quarter due to changing expectations around the Fed and escalating geopolitical tensions. Staying level-headed and keeping these events in perspective are still the best ways to achieve long-term financial goals.

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April 29, 2024S3E15 -Q1 2024 Review and Q2 Outlook
In this episode, we kick off with a warm welcome and jump straight into our Q1 quarterly review followed by the Q2 outlook. Despite entering the year on a shaky start, Q1 turned out exceptionally well, building on the achievements of a strong 2023.
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Q1 Highlights:
The beginning of January began forgettable, raising concerns given the adage “as January goes in the market, so goes the year.” However, the market quickly rebounded, defying early gloom.
Major indices including the S&P 500, NASDAQ, Europe’s stocks 600, and the Japanese Nikkei hit new record highs, some repeatedly, showcasing strong market performance despite the lack of significant positive economic news.
The all-cap world index reported an 8.2% increase, signaling solid market health.
Key Observations and Concerns:
Fed’s interest rates and inflation remain primary focuses. With interest rates peaking in July 2023 and the Fed pausing rate hikes without initiating cuts, market watchers are on high alert.
Recent CPI reports show a slight uptick in the six-month mark, hinting at persistent inflationary pressures, especially in the service sectors, which continue to experience wage pressure and other inflationary concerns.
Insights and Expectations:
The challenges of managing inflation resemble the struggles of weight loss, where initial successes are followed by harder-to-achieve continued progress, indicative of a potential economic plateau.
The manufacturing versus services sector dichotomy, with inflation seemingly under control in the former but unabated in the latter, suggests two diverging economic narratives.
The Inflection Point:
The current economic stance is seen as an inflection point, with uncertainty about whether the market will continue to rise or begin to correct, reflecting both opportunities and challenges ahead.
In summary, Q1 showcased unexpected market resilience with exceptional highs across various indices, despite looming concerns over Fed rates and inflation. Looking ahead, navigating the nuanced dynamics between manufacturing and services sectors, alongside managing inflationary pressures, will be crucial for sustaining growth and stability in Q2 and beyond.
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April 15, 2024S3E14 – Why Diversify Your Retirement Portfolio
Welcome to our latest episode where we explore the complexities and considerations behind diversification of investment portfolios, particularly during retirement. In this in-depth discussion, we lay out compelling market analyses, historical comparisons, and thought-provoking strategies for investors looking to optimize their financial planning.
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Whether you’re just starting to think about retirement or are actively re-balancing your portfolio, this episode is packed with insights that tackle a crucial question: Should you diversify your portfolio in retirement?
Highlights
Examining the past decade’s stock market trends and their implications for portfolio diversification.
Understanding how international and emerging market stocks compare to US large company stocks.
Insights from behavioral finance and market valuations that could shape your investment strategy.
Discussing the ‘lost decade’ and what it can teach us about asset allocation.
Key Points
US large company stocks have seen enormous growth compared to developed and emerging markets since 2009.
Experts suggest a diminishing effect of diversification due to globalization but highlight its continued relevance.
The early 2000s saw much lower returns on US stocks, emphasizing the benefit of a diversified portfolio during downturns.
Valuations play a critical role in expected market returns, with current trends hinting at better prospects for international markets going forward.
Market Analysis
A detailed analysis of the performance of different market sectors over a decade.
Discussion on stock market valuations and investment strategies.
The role of valuations in long-term market predictions and the balance between US and global market performance.
Wrapping Up
Remember, the path to smart investing in retirement lies in understanding diversification, historical performance, and staying true to a disciplined strategy. While recent performances may favor certain markets, long-term success often results from a balanced and diversified approach that can weather a variety of economic climates.
We want to thank you for tuning in, and if you’re seeking more insights or need assistance in your investment strategy, consider reaching out to Shotwell Rutter Baer.
Click here to learn about the Strategic Reliable Blueprint, our financial plan process for your future.
Call us at 517-321-4832 for financial and retirement investing advice.
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April 10, 2024S3E13 – A Conversation with Summer Intern Cole Williams
Welcome to this episode of Kitchen Table Finance where we’re joined by our energetic and insightful spring 2024 intern, Cole Williams. With a few weeks under his belt, Cole shares his experience and lessons learned while working with our very own David. And surprise, Cole – today’s chat is doubling as your extended interview for the rest of the spring season!
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In This Episode
Cole’s Journey: Discover how a political science background led Cole to a passion for financial planning.
A Day in the Life: What does an intern do at Shotwell Rutter Baer? Cole gives us the day-to-day rundown.
The Career Pivot: Cole talks about his transition from working for the state government to pursuing a future where he can truly make an impact on people’s financial wellness.
Local Roots, Global Mindset: From St. John’s to MSU, Cole discusses how his local upbringing fuels his drive to contribute to the community through financial advice.
Behind the Scenes: Learn what life at Michigan State University’s financial planning and wealth management program is really like, and hear about how Cole is preparing for his next steps post-graduation.
Straight Talk: Cole provides his candid take on the financial services industry and what it means to have the best interests of clients at heart.
Family Ties & Financial Goals: An HVAC family and how Cole aims to be the financial pillar in his community.
Featured Guest
Cole Williams, Spring Intern at Shotwell Rutter Baer
Master’s student specializing in Financial Planning and Wealth Management at MSU
Experienced legislative aid at the state capitol
Believer in impactful financial advice for everyday people
We also tackle some critical questions:
How does government experience influence financial planning beliefs?
What can new insiders share about the reality of financial advising?
Why might financial planning be the blue-collar contribution to tomorrow’s world?
Tune in as we explore Cole’s unique story, draw on actionable insights from his experiences, and discuss how past roles shape future ambitions in the financial industry. Don’t forget to `subscribe` to our podcast and `join us at the kitchen table` for a fresh brew of finance, advice, and friendly banter.
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April 09, 2024S3E12 – Annuities and Insuring Your Retirement
In today’s episode, we dissect the often-debated topic of whether you need an annuity for retirement. With a straightforward approach, we explore annuities with both a small “a” and a capital “A”, debunking common misconceptions and laying bare the good, the bad, and the frequently misunderstood facets of these financial products.
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Main Topics Discussed
Annuities and Retirement: Discussing the need and implications of annuities as part of a retirement plan.
The Good and Bad of Annuities: The conversation brings to light our biases against the abusive sales and usage of annuities rather than the product class itself.
Understanding Annuity Functions: A detailed explanation of what an annuity is intended to provide – guaranteed lifetime income.
Cost vs Benefit Analysis: Every decision, especially in finance, comes with its own set of pros and cons; annuities are no different and we discuss what people give up in exchange for guaranteed income.
The Concept of Annuity: We discuss the foundational ideas behind annuities and their original purpose of mitigating longevity risks within a group.
The Reverse Life Insurance Policy: An interesting analogy that compares annuities to life insurance, but in reverse.
Lump Sum Investments for Guaranteed Payouts: How paying a lump sum to an insurance company can translate into lifelong monthly checks.
Deferred Annuities and Guarantees: Delving into where annuities can get complicated—understanding the lead-up to the payout phase and how companies offer certain guarantees.
Episode Highlights
Lifetime Income Guarantees: The importance of understanding what you’re trading in exchange for the certainty of income.
Insurance Chassis: How annuities operate on the insurance principle of diffusing risk across a large group of people.
Payout and Deferred Phases: An explanation of the two critical phases of annuities and the issues that often arise.
Market Guarantees and Real Returns: A critical look at what insurance companies promise versus what they deliver, particularly when it comes to market investments and returns.
Remember to subscribe to our podcast for more insightful discussions on finance and retirement planning. If you have any questions or personal experiences with annuities, reach out to us. We’d love to hear your thoughts on this complex but vital topic.
About Shotwell Rutter Baer
Shotwell Rutter Baer is proud to be an independent, fee-only registered investment advisory firm. This means that we are only compensated by our clients for our knowledge and guidance — not from commissions by selling financial products. Our only motivation is to help you achieve financial freedom and peace of mind. By structuring our business this way we believe that many of the conflicts of interest that plague the financial services industry are eliminated. We work for our clients, period.
Click here to learn about the Strategic Reliable Blueprint, our financial plan process for your future.
Call us at 517-321-4832 for financial and retirement investing advice.
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April 02, 2024S3E11 – Strategic Reliable Blueprint – Obstacles Meeting
Episode Overview
In this pivotal episode of the “Kitchen Table Finance” podcast, Dave and Nick explore the concept of a “Strategic Reliable Blueprint” and how to effectively identify and tackle obstacles in planning. The episode uncovers the importance of recognizing unseen solutions, re-envisioning goals to surmount challenges, and the crucial steps taken behind the scenes to prepare for strategic meetings.
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Key Takeaways
The Power of Possibility: At [21:04], the conversation illuminates how casting problems and challenges out to the universe can bring forward solutions that were previously hidden in the subconscious.
Recreating Vision: Around [21:16], it’s stressed that by identifying obstacles and searching for pathways around them, new and viable solutions emerge, reshaping the strategic vision.
Behind-the-Scenes Organization: Starting at [21:44], the significance of organization between meetings is emphasized. The team’s work, guided by the paraplanner, is to gather the necessary information and resources to pave the way for productive strategy sessions.
Upcoming Focus: The next episode promises a deeper insight into the organization process at [22:39], revealing why it’s essential and how it takes shape with Amy’s expertise.
Continuing the Journey: At [22:51], listeners are encouraged to revisit previous episodes to fully grasp each step of the process, building towards a comprehensive plan complete with actionable implementation steps.
New Perspectives: Dave and Nick wrap at [23:13] by teasing the excitement of upcoming discussions which will continue to blend practical financial advice with real-world experiences.
Resources & Links
Visit SRB Advisors’ website for more practical advice: srbadvisors.com
For those new to the series, consider going back to listen to the initial steps covered in earlier episodes to get a full understanding of the blueprint process.
Fit Meeting Process
Step Two – The Foundation Meeting
Step Three – Vision
Step Four – Obstacles
Step Five – Organization
Step Six – Strategy
Step Seven – Build
Reach out for personal planning via email: [email protected]
Conclusion
Join Dave and Nick as they guide you through the methodology of building a strong and reliable financial plan. Whether you’re facing obstacles or looking for strategic direction, the “Kitchen Table Finance” podcast can offer the guidance and insights needed for financial empowerment. Stay tuned for the next episode on organization and plan with confidence.
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