Know Your Ship

What if ending chronic homelessness wasn’t about housing first—but humanity first?

In this moving episode of Know Your Ship, host Frank sits down with Preston Cochrane, CEO of The Other Side Village, a self-sustaining community in Salt Lake City built to restore lives—not just roofs over heads.

 Preston moves the needle and the soul.

With decades of experience in credit counseling and behavioral health, Preston shares how The Other Side Village is redefining the way we approach homelessness. This isn’t just about shelter—it’s about rebuilding identity through community, purpose, and dignity. They’re creating transformation through therapy, job training, financial literacy, and a deep sense of belonging.

It’s a model rooted in earned success and personal accountability, where faith in people—flawed, beautiful, whole—drives everything. And yes, donuts and dance battles are part of the healing, too.

Preston explains why “housing solves homelessness” is a myth, how the true root of chronic homelessness is often a catastrophic loss of family, and why charity without connection falls short. His vision is bold, human-centered, and impossible to forget.

Whether you work in social impact or public policy or simply want to believe in people again, this conversation will stay with you.

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The Other Side Village’s Website: https://theothersidevillage.com/

The Other Side Academy’s website: https://www.theothersideacademy.com/

The Other Side Thrift Boutique’s Website: https://www.theothersidethriftboutique.com/

The Other Side Donuts’ Website: www.theothersidedonuts.com

The Other Side Movers’ Website: https://slc.theothersidemovers.com/

The Other Side Builders’ Website: https://theothersidebuilders.com/

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The Other Side Village LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-other-side-village/posts/?feedView=all

The Other Side Academy LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-other-side-academy/posts/?feedView=allThe Other Side Village Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@OtherSideVillage/The Other Side Village Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theothersidevillage/?hl=en
Preston’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestoncochrane/

What do sleeping in a van, sailing to church in a dinghy, and selling treadmills in China have in common? They’re all chapters in Kyle Freebairn’s life—and none of them were part of a traditional playbook.

In this episode of Know Your Ship, Kyle (CEO of Frazil) sits down with Frank to talk about growing up on the move—from trailer parks to sailboats to surf breaks—and how those experiences shaped his approach to leadership, risk, and building teams that actually like working together.

Kyle shares why emotional resilience beats pedigree, why family is everything, and how he made a hard pivot from psychology to finance to frozen drinks.

You’ll hear the unfiltered story behind one of the coolest minds in consumer goods—and why his team would crush it even if they were building ball bearings instead of slushies.

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Frazil’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB5u2ixQwhq06wE3s5yLXJA

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What do sleeping in a van, sailing to church in a dinghy, and selling treadmills in China have in common? They’re all chapters in Kyle Freebairn’s life—and none of them were part of a traditional playbook.

In this episode of Know Your Ship, Kyle (CEO of Frazil) sits down with Frank to talk about growing up on the move—from trailer parks to sailboats to surf breaks—and how those experiences shaped his approach to leadership, risk, and building teams that actually like working together.

Kyle shares why emotional resilience beats pedigree, why family is everything, and how he made a hard pivot from psychology to finance to frozen drinks. You’ll hear the unfiltered story behind one of the coolest minds in consumer goods—and why his team would crush it even if they were building ball bearings instead of slushies.

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In this episode of Know Your Ship, Frank sits down with Tim Lacomb—former BYU basketball coach, broadcaster, and musician—for an honest, wide-ranging conversation about navigating life through loss, reinvention, and connection.

Frank, a former University of Utah quarterback, dips into the BYU vs Utah rivalry. His journey in Tech and Saas, entrepreneurship, and experience in Utah and the Silicon Slopes paves a great story for those with either an entrepreneurship mindset or in need of business motivation.

Tim shares stories from his early years marked by deep personal loss, to coaching under legends like Rick Majerus and Dave Rose, to transitioning into the corporate world, even fronting a rock band. He reflects on what shaped his outlook, the people who showed up when he needed them most, and why authenticity and consistency matter in any career path. 

Key themes include finding direction through difficult circumstances, learning from mentors and coaching experiences, building genuine relationships in both work and life and learning to let go of fear in order to embrace change.

This conversation touches on resilience, leadership, and the power of showing up, not just for the work, but for the people around you.

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When the economy crashed in 2008, Liz and Dave were living in Guatemala with newborn twins, working in Liz’s family’s apparel factory. Within months, the factory lost decades-long contracts, was reduced from 1,500 operators to just 20, and at one point, was even robbed of every machine. Most people would have walked away—but they didn’t.

In this episode, Liz and Dave, founders of Albion Fit, share how they stayed when it made more sense to leave. They talk about the heartbreak of watching a business unravel, the power of loyalty, and the creativity that emerges when you're backed into a corner. With no money and no guarantees, they pivoted to something entirely new: full-package manufacturing and, eventually, their own brand.

From the early days of watercolor prints and one-piece swimsuits to the philosophy that guides Albion today, this conversation is a story of resilience, optimism, and choosing people over profit. It's not just about starting a business—it's about rebuilding a life and staying true to your why.

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Albion Fit’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/albion-fit/

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Jeff Spangler is a business leader and a storyteller with a wild childhood, a nationally ranked racquetball past, and a grounded outlook on work, life, and growth. In this episode, Frank dives deep into Jeff’s journey, from getting fired by his own grandpa at 12 to discovering purpose through pigheaded determination, unexpected mentorship, and hard-earned lessons from New Mexico to Mississippi.

What you'll hear: why setting expectations (even in marriage) matters, the importance of working hard and feeling productive, lessons from growing up on a potato chip delivery route, how one unexpected "security guard" shifted Jeff’s teenage path, the underrated power of surrounding yourself with the right people, and honest insights on leadership, parenting, failure, personal pivots, and yes, the truth about Jeff’s racquetball glory days.

It’s funny, thoughtful, honest, and just might be your new favorite episode. Whether you're an entrepreneur, a parent, or just trying to figure out your next move, this one’s got something for you.

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This week, Frank sits down with Jaycee Carroll, the Utah State basketball legend turned international pro and now entrepreneur. From lighting up the scoreboard at Utah State University to playing a decade with Real Madrid Basketball, Jaycee shares his incredible journey from college hoops to EuroLeague basketball, where he competed at the highest level of European competition, played alongside Luka Dončić, and trained in the same facility as Cristiano Ronaldo.

But Jaycee’s story doesn’t stop at EuroLeague basketball. His post-career pivot led him into the world of business and entrepreneurship, inspired by his time in Spain. Now, he’s raising premium Wagyu cattle in Utah and running a wealth management firm that helps athletes and entrepreneurs secure their financial futures.

Don’t miss this inspiring conversation about sports, business, and the relentless pursuit of excellence—from professional basketball to startup founder stories, wealth management, and premium beef production.

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Entrepreneurship takes a new form when it comes to disrupting existing, dead, or underappreciated markets. Manly Bands did just that—entering a wedding ring market where competition wasn’t the biggest hurdle, but demand was a giant question mark.

In this episode of Know Your Ship, CEO and co-founder Michelle Lucchese shares how she and her husband took a bold risk to create a brand that redefined men’s wedding rings. Michelle reveals the entrepreneurial lessons that built their multi-million dollar business, from their scrappy startup beginnings to navigating logistics, supply chain challenges, and digital marketing.

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In this episode of Know Your Ship, Frank sits down with Jeff Call, Co-Founder of Just Ingredients, to talk about the journey behind one of the most trusted brands in clean living.

Jeff shares how he and his wife, Karalynne Call, turned a personal health struggle into a mission to help people rethink what they put in and on their bodies. From overcoming challenges to disrupting the industry with better, cleaner alternatives, this conversation is packed with insight into what makes Just Ingredients different.

Tune in and learn how Just Ingredients came to be and its mission. Jeff shares the mission of Just Ingredients by explaining how simple swaps in everyday products can have a huge impact on your health and well-being. Get a behind-the-scenes look at the challenges of creating truly clean products and what it takes to build a brand that makes a difference.

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Just Ingredient’s Website: https://justingredients.us

Just Ingredient’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/just-ingredients-inc/

Just Ingredient’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/just.ingredients/?hl=en

Just Ingredient’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@just.ingredients?lang=en

Just Ingredient’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JustIngredientsApproved/

What happens when you hit rock bottom and feel like your life has no meaning? For Todd Sylvester, that moment led to an incredible transformation. In this episode of the Know Your Ship podcast, Todd shares his journey from addiction and self-destruction to becoming a sought-after counselor, speaker, and mentor.

He breaks down the power of self-talk, gratitude, and visualization and explains how anyone—whether struggling personally or professionally—can reframe their mindset and find purpose. Todd’s story proves that sometimes, the smallest moments (like a lemonade stand) can have the biggest impact.

Learn how to:

 -Overcome negative self-talk and limiting beliefs

-Shift from self-destruction to self-improvement

-Apply these lessons to business and personal growth

-Inspire change in yourself and others

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