We’re in Kew for the second part of our walk with the brilliant journalist and presenter of Channel 4 News - Krishnan Guru-Murthy and his Chihuahua, Chubby Chops! 

In this part of our chat - we talk about how it Krishnan’s job makes it necessary for him to be confrontational and how he feels about being liked. He also tells us about his love story with his wife Lisa, and what his kids make of his job.

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See more of Krishnan’s work on Channel 4 News here

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Walking The Dog is produced by Faye Lawrence

Music: Rich Jarman 

Artwork: Alice Ludlam

Photography: Karla Gowlett 

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