Krystal Ball joins Katie to discuss the Democrats pathetic caving in the face of the government shutdown. Then Jon Hoffman, PhD, of the Cato Institute joins to the political rift in America's right-wing over Israel and the potential for things to escalate with Iran. And then we speak to Etan Mabourakh, the Action Organizing Manager at the National Iranian American Council (NIAC).

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Krystal Ball is an American political commentator and host of Breaking Points and Krystal Kyle & Friends. She was previously a political candidate, as well as co-host on the MSNBC show The Cycle, a regular contributor to The Huffington Post, and a co-host of The Hill's Rising.

Jon Hoffman is a research fellow in defense and foreign policy at the Cato Institute. His research interests include U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, Middle East geopolitics, and political Islam.

Hoffman’s work has been featured in a number of academic and policy-oriented platforms, including Foreign Policy, The Washington Post, The National Interest, Middle East Policy, and more. Hoffman was included in the inaugural cohort of the “40 under 40” award provided by the Middle East Policy Council for furthering U.S. understanding of the Middle East.

Hoffman holds a Ph.D. in political science, an M.A. in Middle East and Islamic Studies, and a B.A. in Global Affairs, all from George Mason University

Etan Mabourakh is the Action Organizing Manager at the National Iranian American Council (NIAC), where oversees NIAC’s grassroots efforts to empower Iranian American In every state around the country for pro-peace, pro civil rights and human rights advocacy. He also co-captains the NIAC New York Chapter mobilizing volunteer leaders, engaging policymakers, and advancing campaigns for peace and justice in the Middle East and U.S.

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