Episode 94: What does it mean to navigate adulthood as an autistic person in a world that isn’t always designed with neurodivergent people in mind?
In this remixed and re-edited episode, we revisit an important conversation about autistic adulthood—challenging outdated stereotypes and exploring the real-life experiences, strengths, and challenges of people with autism as they navigate relationships, work, identity, and support.
We’re joined by psychotherapists, self-advocates, and autism experts Lou Ursa and Jasmeen Miah, who share professional insight and personal perspective. Together, we explore how greater understanding of neurodiversity can broaden the way we think about difference, disability, belonging, and what it means to live authentically.
This remix also features a new In Your Voice story from Paul Bondonno, an autistic adult who shares his experience facing challenges in the workplace. Paul talks about how he eventually resolved those difficulties—and reflects on why he wishes he had reached out for help sooner.
Paul, Lou, and Jasmeen remind us that there is no single experience of autistic adulthood—and that listening to autistic people is an important place to start.
Broadcasts: 9/6/26 & 9/14/26
Producer & Host: Debra Sloss LMFT
Guests: Lou Ursa, LMFT & Jasmeen Miah, LMFT
Contributor: Paul Bondonno
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RESOURCES
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Unmasking Autism: Discovering the New Faces of Neurodiversity by Dr. Devon Price (2022) – An exploration into the spectrum of autistic experience and the phenomenon of masked autism, giving individuals tools to uncover their true selves while broadening society’s narrow understanding of neurodiversity. An insightful deep-dive with expansive views into the autistic experience by an autistic author.
What I Mean When I Say I’m Autistic: Unpuzzling Life on the Autism Spectrum by Annie Kotowicz – Written by an autistic author this book provides a good look into what being autistic is like. While this book is written to help explain this to non-autistic people, it can helpful and validating for autistic individuals as well.
There is no epidemic of autism. It’s an epidemic of need by John Elder Robison and Dena Gassner. STAT / March 23, 2023 – An article published on the STAT: reporting from the frontiers of medicine and health website.
Awareness, Acceptance, and Beyond: Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapy with Autistic Clients – Blog post by Lou Ursa. This blog was initially written for a Sacramento-based therapist directory in April 2022 for Autism Acceptance Month. This version has minor edits and updates.
Websites and Organizations
Embrace Autism – Website focused on distributing up-to-date research and experience-based information about autism. The site provides free access to widely used, empirically validated tests that might be useful for someone exploring whether they might be autistic.
Neurobeautiful: Inside the Mind of an Autistic Woman – The website of the author Annie Kotowicz with blog posts and a link to her book What I Mean when I say I’m Autistic: Unpuzzling Life on the Autism Spectrum.
Neuroqueer: The writings of Dr. Nick Walker – The website of a psychologist on Neuroqueer Theory with essays, videos, comics, and more.
Autistic Self-Advocacy Network (ASAN) – A non-profit, disability-rights organization run by and for autistic people. Their work focuses on policy and legal advocacy, providing educational resources related to autism and providing tools and support for autistic self-advocates.
JAN (Job Accommodation Network) – A website that can help individuals and employers explore and understand accommodation ideas for employment.
Everything’s Gonna Be Okay – A show created by an autistic & ADHD comedian. Autistic characters are played by autistic actors. This is an affirming media representation.
Hannah Gadsby’s special Douglas – Netflix comedy special in which they discuss their autism diagnosis. Trailer on Youtube.
Neurodivergent Therapists Directory – database to help neurodivergent clients find neurodivergent therapists. All listed providers identify as neurodivergent and agree to honor the Neurodivergent Therapists Values.
Spoon theory: What it is and how I use it to manage chronic illness / Perspective by Fortesa Latifi / January 14, 2023 – Based on the work of writer Christine Miserandino. Each spoon represents a finite unit of energy; people with chronic illnesses have to ration them just to get through the day.
Neurodiversity Affirming Language Guide – A guide from Neurodiverse Connection to help people use language that respects and affirms neurodivergent identities. It explains key terms, offers alternatives to outdated or pathologizing language, and describes why these language choices matter.
*Jasmeen Miah, LMFT (She/They)
*Lou Ursa LMFT (they/them)
Website: www.creaturecomforttherapy.com
Phone/Text: 916-234-623
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