Episode 91: Trauma can profoundly alter the course of a life, shaking our sense of safety, identity, and meaning. But alongside suffering, some people also experience unexpected—even dramatic—psychological growth. In this episode, host and psychotherapist Debra Sloss explores the concept of Post-Traumatic Growth—the possibility that meaningful change can emergehrough the process of rebuilding one’s life following trauma.
We open with a powerful “In Your Voice” story from Holocaust survivor Gitta Ryle, whose reflections on fear, anger, survival, and eventual peace anchor the conversation in lived experience.
Joining the discussion is Richard G. Tedeschi, PhD, Executive Director of the Boulder Crest Institute for Posttraumatic Growth and one of the psychologists who originally coined the term. Drawing on decades of research and clinical work, Dr. Tedeschi explains what post-traumatic growth is, how it differs from post-traumatic stress, and how growth and pain can coexist. He also discusses the psychological process of rebuilding after trauma, the role of meaning-making and community support, and the common misconceptions surrounding growth after adversity.
Also joining the episode is Assemblymember Gail Pellerin, who shares her personal experience of losing her husband to suicide and the profound impact that loss had on her mental health, identity, and life direction. Gail reflects on grief, resilience, and how that experience ultimately helped shape her path into public service and mental health advocacy.
Together, these voices offer a nuanced and hopeful conversation about trauma, healing and the human capacity to rebuild after profound suffering.
Broadcasts 6/7/26 & 6/8/26
Producer & Host: Debra Sloss, LMFT
Guests: Richard G. Tedeschi, Gail Pellerin,
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RESOURCES
* Indicates a Monterey Bay Area Resource
* NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) Santa Cruz – Santa Cruz local chapter that provides free support groups and education classes for persons with mental health issues and their families and friends. All services are free to access.
“I participated in the Family to Family support group after my husband’s suicide when I was also navigating mental health challenges of loved ones. This program gave me essential tools to navigate through my grief and manage my family.” – Assemblymember Gail Pellerin
NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) National – an organization and website providing extensive free education and support, advocacy and resources for persons with mental health issues and their families and friends. While NAMI is a national organization, they have local chapters and offer free support groups and share the local resources for mental health support.
Boulder Crest Foundation – The home of Posttraumatic Growth (PTG) and a nationally recognized nonprofit organization serving members of the military, veteran, and first responder communities, as well as their families. Through PTG-based programs, training and education initiatives, research, and advocacy, Boulder Crest supports individuals in living meaningful, connected lives in the aftermath of trauma.
First Responder Support Network (FRSN) is a collaboration of first responder peers (included but not limited to police, fire, dispatch, and emergency medical services), Significant Others & Spouses (SOS) peers, and culturally competent mental health clinicians and chaplains. The programs are supported by dedicated volunteers and charitable contributions. They pledge to be committed to diversity and anti-racism in their work and to offer an inclusive and safe space for every first responder.
American Foundation for Suicide Prevention (AFSP) – A leading national organization dedicated to suicide prevention through research, education, advocacy, and support for individuals and families impacted by suicide. AFSP is also known for its community-based Out of the Darkness walks, which bring people together to raise awareness, reduce stigma, and foster healing and connection.
“The summer after my husband’s suicide, my family and I participated in the overnight Out of the Darkness walk in San Francisco put on by AFSP. We raised money for suicide awareness and walked with hundreds of people whose lives had been impacted by suicide. It was one of the most powerful experiences I have ever participated in and was truly life changing.” – Assemblymember Gail Pellerin
Posttraumatic Growth: Theory, Research, and Applications (2nd Edition, 2026) by Richard G. Tedeschi and colleagues – This updated edition provides a comprehensive overview of the theory, research, and practical applications of Post-Traumatic Growth. The book explores how people can experience meaningful psychological change following trauma, and is useful for clinicians, students, researchers, and readers interested in the science of resilience, meaning-making, and recovery.
Transformed by Trauma: Stories of Posttraumatic Growth (2020) by Richard G. Tedeschi and Bret A. Moore – Through powerful personal stories of individuals who have faced profound adversity, this book explores how people can experience positive psychological change in the aftermath of trauma. Blending lived experience with psychological insight, the authors illustrate the many ways people rebuild meaning, purpose, relationships, and identity after difficult life events.
The Posttraumatic Growth Workbook (2016) by Richard G. Tedeschi and Bret A. Moore – This practical workbook offers guided exercises and reflective activities designed to help readers better understand and work through the emotional aftermath of trauma. Grounded in the principles of Post-Traumatic Growth, it provides tools for meaning-making, resilience, and personal growth following difficult life experiences.
Life After Suicide by Jennifer Ashton, is a fantastic book that helped me navigate the unimaginable loss of my husband by putting language to the grief, confusion, and isolation that follow suicide. Through compassion, honesty, and shared experience, the book reminded me that healing is not linear – the path is not straight, it’s not flat, and it’s not one direction.
Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl (2006) – The author weaves together his experiences surviving Nazi concentration camps with his theory of logotherapy, which centers on the human drive to find meaning even in the face of profound suffering. Since its publication in 1946, the book has offered insight and grounding for readers seeking resilience, purpose, and perspective during times of adversity.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline – Dial 9-8-8. This 24/7 hotline can and will talk to anyone who needs help. The Lifeline is available for everyone, is free, and confidential.
Suicide LOSS Survivors Support Group – Family Service Agency of the Central Coast – A support group for people grieving the suicide death of a loved one, offering connection, understanding, and a safe space to share experiences with others who have also experienced suicide loss. The group helps reduce isolation and supports healing through community and shared understanding.
“This was an incredibly powerful group where I met weekly with others who had lost someone to suicide and truly understood what I was going through.” – Assemblymember Gail Pellerin
*Family Service Agency (FSA) of the Central Coast– Long-time State of Mind underwriter offering low-cost and Medi-Cal/Medicare therapy for all ages, including sliding-scale options. Offices in Santa Cruz and Soquel.
📞 Santa Cruz: 831-423-9444 x200 | Soquel: 831-346-6767 x200
*Shine a Light Counseling Center – Provides affordable therapy services, including individual, couples, family, and group therapy (including men’s groups), across Santa Cruz, Watsonville, and Monterey.
Dr. Richard Tedeschi, Licensed Psychologist – In addition to his work at the Boulder Crest Institute for Posttraumatic Growth, Richard G. Tedeschi, PhD, also maintains a small clinical practice through the Family Enrichment Center, where he specializes in life transitions, loss, and trauma and helping individuals and couples navigate adversity, meaning-making, and healing after difficult life experiences.
*Indicates a Monterey Bay Area resource