This episode is where patterns start to come into focus.
Not through theory, but through repetition. Moving through industry spaces, conversations, programs, and events that claimed to be climate-adjacent, but consistently redirected away from climate action and toward growth of the outdoor economy instead.
In this session, I talk about what it felt like to keep running into the same friction. The belief that the outdoor industry shouldn’t be talking about climate directly. That its role is to grow participation, grow brands, and grow the outdoor economy, while climate is treated as someone else’s responsibility.
I don’t agree with that separation.
This episode sits at the line between brands and outdoor culture. Between marketing and meaning. Between an industry built on growth and an outdoors that is being fundamentally altered by climate collapse.
I also trace how, when those conversations start to feel uncomfortable, familiar brands often get pulled in as reassurance. Not as an argument, but as a way to steady the moment and move past it.
There are no solutions offered here. Just the moment when noticing becomes unavoidable, and when the idea of the outdoors as something separate from climate no longer makes sense.
This episode is about realizing that the outdoors can’t be siloed. It has to be holistic, or it isn’t honest.
Listen in one go. In motion, if you can. This one is about seeing the whole picture instead of jumping to the comfortable parts.
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