Barrett Avner is a very serious political theory head, wholly unusual personality and thinker, and the host of the Contain podcast. We talk about faith, dis-identity, Alexandr Dugin, trolling, and the figure of the dandy.

Jamie Stewart, the incomparable mastermind behind the legendary experimental post-punk band Xiu Xiu, graces the livestream with a lovely chat about the ethics of telling other people's stories, a drama-filled tour we did together years ago, and power dynamics in homoerotic contexts.

Xylon is an experimental musician, writer, and philosophical meme lord. We'll talk about noise, communism, cringe, immigration, jury duty, the archetype of the "spare tire Jew", and Xylon's new project Mute Presence.