Darlene and Mike celebrate the end of 2024, welcoming Daniel Fish (Editor, Precedent Magazine) to discuss his most recent article entitled The New Era of Associate Pushback.

PLUS - a BTS look at podcast editing, Darlene awkwardly accepts Mike's thanks, and a surprise Gripe!

The article we discussed is here: https://lawandstyle.ca/career/the-new-era-of-associate-pushback/.

Visit lawandstyle.ca for more articles from Daniel Fish, or check him out on X (@DanielHFish).

Please like, subscribe, and share! Talk soon.

In today's episode of the Lawyer Life Podcast, Mike Anderson and Darlene Tonelli of Inter Alia Law muse about whether people are equipped to handle all the things in society for which government is removing regulatory guardrails.

Plus:

We talk about going on a "news fast", and what we will do instead, like getting out into the real world and doing actual things and having real conversations. "Keep aware, don't obsess".

We wonder how we as a society keep ourselves out of addiction and vices when the government steps back and legalizes things that used to be illegal (e.g. sports betting, cannabis), or chooses not to regulate things in the first place (e.g. platforms like Uber, AirBnB, or social media generally).

As always, Goods and Gripes:

Goods - Darlene loves lawyer shows and books, actual experience of being a lawyer notwithstanding. Mike supports and promotes two amazingly talented artists from Alberta: music (Sister Ray - sisterraymusic.com) and comedian/actor (Lisa Gilroy - lisagilroy.com).

Gripes - Mike wonders who was complaining about old Outlook. Darlene follows up on a previous gripe and shares some feedback from her family for Mike.

We talked about this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/22/nyregio...

To learn more about our sponsor, Inter Alia Law, please visit www.interalia-law.com.

Darlene and Mike chat about Darlene's most recent read - "Meditations for Mortals: Four Weeks to Embrace Your Limitations and Make Time for What Counts" by Oliver Burkeman, and his very different take on "maximum productivity" and "hyper optimization". They also introduce a new segment (with a flashy title screen!), and Mike vents about a 5 year-old harassing him about being 'follicly challenged'.

In today's episode of the Lawyer Life Podcast, Mike Anderson and Darlene Tonelli of Inter Alia Law talk about what Mike has been reading lately (Malcolm Gladwell's "Revenge of the Tipping Point: Overstories, Superspreaders, and The Rise of Social Engineering"). This gets Darlene talking about the book that she thinks should be revisited to see if it still holds up.

We tied our conversation in to lawyering, including a discussion about how the trends that Malcolm Gladwell discusses (a form of groupthink) might apply in our profession.

As always, there were Goods and Gripes.

- Mike and Darlene really admire volunteers.

- Mike needs better instructions, and Darlene wonders about business names...

To learn more about our sponsor, Inter Alia Law, please visit www.interalia-law.com

In today's episode of the Lawyer Life Podcast, Mike Anderson and Darlene Tonelli of Inter Alia Law talk through last week's US election results with the amazing journalist, author, and political commentator, David Moscrop.

Five years ago, Mike and Darlene talked to David on the podcast about his book, "Too Dumb for Democracy: Why We Make Bad Political Decisions and How we Can Make Better Ones". If his observations felt sharp and intelligent back then, well... they felt incredibly prescient last week.

We tied our conversation into lawyering, including a discussion about how what lawyers know about bullies in negotiations becomes relevant as we embark on the next four years.

As always, there were Goods and Gripes.

- Mike talks PWHL, and Darlene is making blended soups with yet more handheld kitchen appliances.

- Mike feels society has reached "peak water bottle" and Darlene is experiencing post Halloween lawn decor guilt.

To find more from David Moscrop, you can check out his Substack, and catch his political commentary on television, radio, and in print media. You can hear more from David on the two podcasts that he hosts: Open To Debate, a current affairs podcast, and Left Looking In with CUPE Local 416. And of course, we highly recommend his book "Too Dumb For Democracy: Why We Make Bad Political Decisions and How We Can Make Better Ones".

To learn more about our sponsor, Inter Alia Law, please visit www.interalia-law.com

In today's episode of the Lawyer Life Podcast, Mike Anderson and Darlene Tonelli of Inter Alia Law catch up on what's been going on since they last posted an episode of the pod, plus:

- Team-friendly sports contracts - are star players' lawyers the REAL difference between a winning team and a losing team?

- Mike's 40th Birthday Playlist - Mike turned 40. And his playlist needs to be commented on. Link is here: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6i2wQzspFCSHYmwINKaKBu?si=mhbhidPhTgGkePLWtfDJ6Q&pi=u-sHukHaNQTiqq

- As always, Goods and Gripes.

Darlene's new side hustle will be to sell these (#notsponsored):

https://www.amazon.ca/eufy-Cordless-Handheld-Ultra-Lightweight-Charging/dp/B08ZXZTPC7/ref=asc_df_B08ZXZTPC7/?tag=googleshopc0c-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=706745545576&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16925645490330571638&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9001328&hvtargid=pla-1369238227424&mcid=58048d175b9c3017ba3daee56386f69a&gad_source=1&th=1

To learn more about our sponsor, Inter Alia Law, please visit www.interalia-law.com

Darlene and Mike wrap up season 6 by discussing the default treatment of opposing lawyers as instant adversaries.

They ask whether an approach of respectful problem solving can lead to better results (and should become the profession's new default).

PLUS: Mike's guru morning, Darlene revisits classic stories from her youth, and Mike's memory from his first year orientation BBQ.

SPONSOR

This episode is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free!

SHOW NOTES:

Check out Hit Refresh: The Quest to Rediscover Microsoft’s Soul and Imagine a Better Future for Everyone, Satya Nadella, https://www.amazon.ca/Hit-Refresh-Rediscover-Microsofts-Everyone-ebook/dp/B01HOT5SQA

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Darlene and Mike are joined by Heidi K. Brown (Author, Professor of Law at Brooklyn Law School) to discuss her book Untangling Fear In Lawyering.

The group considers whether lawyers can improve performance and well-being by embracing confidence, understanding what drives fear, and adopting practices to first acknowledge it, and then work to eliminate it.

PLUS: Darlene goes west, a great show recommendation, and is Mike Scandinavian?

SHOW NOTES

Check out Heidi's book "Untangling Fear in Lawyering: A Four-Step Journey Toward Powerful Advocacy" here: https://www.americanbar.org/products/inv/book/358687385/(USA) and here: https://www.amazon.ca/Untangling-Fear-Lawyering-Four-Step-Powerful/dp/1641053526 (Canada).

This episode is sponsored by Helcim. Helcim makes credit card processing for your business easy, simple, and affordable. Visit Helcim.com/lawyerlife to get your first $6,000 worth of processing free.

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Darlene and Mike are joined by Sara Robertson (Limehorse.com) to learn how acknowledging identity, principles, and empathetic abilities can help lawyers avoid bad outcomes.

PLUS: Golden Girls, a genius road trip hack, and sartorial reviews of My Cousin Vinny.

THANK YOU

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Darlene and Mike discuss the downsides of overthinking.

With a little help from books on the subject, they propose that eliminating negative soundtracks and distracting noise is actually key to the effective practice of law.

PLUS: The power of Lego, a document from Darlene's past appears, and Mike finds the perfect metaphor for self-improvement efforts.

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LINKS:

Soundtracks: The Surprising Solution to Overthinking

by Jon Acuff: https://www.amazon.ca/Soundtracks-Jon-Acuff/dp/1540900800#:~:text=In%20Soundtracks%2C%20New%20York%20Times,the%20soundtracks%20that%20define%20you.

NOISE: A FLAW IN HUMAN JUDGMENT by Daniel Kahneman, OLIVIER SIBONY, Cass R. Sunstein: https://www.amazon.ca/Noise-Human-Judgment-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0316451401

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Music credit: Thanks to Nick Fowler who composed and performed our theme music. To learn about his work, visit teknologyproductions.wixsite.com/teknology.

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Please rate, review, subscribe and comment. We would so appreciate your feedback (I mean, we're just two lawyers trying to podcast).