WarDocs - The Military Medicine Podcast

Leadership, Readiness and Taking Care of Warriors: Reflections from Navy TSG VADM(Ret) Matthew L. Nathan, MD, FACP, FACHE


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     What if you could peek behind the curtain of Military Medicine, understand the unique leadership challenges it presents, and learn invaluable lessons from an experienced veteran in the field? That's precisely what you'll get in our fascinating conversation with retired Navy VADM Dr. Matthew L. Nathan. From sharing his journey into Military Medicine to the pivotal role of the Navy in global aid, Dr. Nathan unpacks his experiences in a way that's both insightful and engaging. He takes us on a voyage through his career, from his early days providing medical support for the Marine Corps during the Cold War to his vital role in the congressionally chartered Recovering Warrior Task Force as well as his experiences as the 37th Navy Surgeon General. He delves into his leadership style, the challenges he faced leading Navy Medicine, and the invaluable lessons he learned along the way.

   Learn about the pivotal role of Navy Medicine in supporting the Navy's mission of patrolling the seaways and their readiness to provide aid whenever required. He also dives into the challenges he faced as Navy Medical Corps Chief, especially when deploying medical staff to conflict zones and creating a supportive and communicative culture within the reserve force.

    We also navigate through his experiences leading Navy Medicine amidst the cultural differences and tactics of providing healthcare of the Navy, Army, Air Force, and Marines. Dr. Nathan shares his strategies for reducing purchase care costs, fostering cultural harmony, and ensuring unified standards for patient care across the military's different service branches.

    We wrap up with an exploration of Dr. Nathan's post-retirement leadership experiences in a large civilian hospital system and his participation in Harvard University's Advanced Leadership Initiative. Dr. Nathan imparts his wisdom on the importance of training, rank, accountability, and responsibility.  His reflections on his career, his commitment to warrior healthcare, and his dedication to making a positive impact on people's lives are truly inspiring - a testament to his remarkable journey and dedication in the Navy. Don't miss out on this insightful conversation with one of the Military Medicine's most esteemed veterans.

 

Chapters:

(0:00:00) - Military Medicine and Leadership Lessons

(0:07:47) - Battle Training in Marine Corps, Navy

(0:16:28) - Navy Medicine Challenges in Wartime

(0:26:08) - Managing Cultural Differences in Healthcare

(0:30:30) - Reducing Military Hospital Purchased Care Costs

(0:35:24) - Defense Health Agency and Warrior Task Force

(0:41:21) - Coordinating Care for Wounded Warriors

(0:46:55) - Challenges and Advocacy for Military Healthcare

(0:56:08) - Healthcare Challenges, Harvard, and Vaccine Hesitancy

(1:10:38) - Command and Leadership Lessons and Honors

(1:17:11) - Surgeon General's Reflections and Stories

(1:23:33) - Career and Dedication in the Navy

 

Chapter Summaries:

(0:00:00) - Military Medicine and Leadership Lessons

Retired Navy VADM Dr. Matthew L Nathan shares leadership lessons from multiple operational and strategic assignments, the merger of Bethesda Naval and Walter Reed Army Hospital, the Recovering Warrior Task Force, and civilian hospital system leadership.

 

(0:07:47) - Battle Training in Marine Corps, Navy

VADM(Ret) Nathan shares his experience in Military Medicine, cold weather training, and providing and managing medical care at sea on the USS Saipan and USS Blue Ridge while supporting the Navy's role in patrolling the seaways.

 

(0:16:28) - Navy Medicine Challenges in Wartime

VADM(Ret) Nathan discusses the challenges of sending medical staff to conflict zones, revitalizing, and refreshing those on the frontlines, memorializing experiences and knowledge, and finding champions within the reserve forces.

 

(0:26:08) - Managing Cultural Differences in Healthcare

Dr. Nathan shares his experience leading the Navy Medical Corps, navigating cultural differences, and establishing unified standards for patient care.

 

(0:30:30) - Reducing Military Hospital Purchased Care Costs

Dr. Nathan focused on patient care that puts the patient first and excelling at the Joint Commission Survey following the Bethesda Naval Hospital and Walter Reed AMC merger.

 

(0:35:24) - Defense Health Agency and Warrior Task Force

Dr. Nathan discussed reducing healthcare costs, the Defense Health Agency, and the high cost of US healthcare.

 

(0:41:21) - Coordinating Care for Wounded Warriors

VADM(Ret) Nathan navigated differences between the Navy, Army, and VA systems to reduce purchase care costs and create an integrated system for wounded Warriors.

 

(0:46:55) - Challenges and Advocacy for Military Healthcare

Dr Nathan advocated for Military Medicine, pushing for technological advances and operational risk management.

 

(0:56:08) - Healthcare Challenges, Harvard, and Vaccine Hesitancy

VADM(Ret) Nathan reconciled Navy, Army, and VA systems to provide the best care to warriors and caregivers, leveraging Harvard University and Advanced Leadership Initiative to address healthcare disparities. He reflects on vaccine development and implementation during the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

(1:10:38) - Command and Leadership Lessons and Honors

VADM(Ret) Nathan learned the value of training, rank, accountability, responsibility in leadership positions, and maintaining dignity and respect for fellow sailors.

 

(1:17:11) - Surgeon General's Reflections and Stories

VADM(Ret) Nathan shares his strategy to reduce purchase care costs, his work on the Recovering Warrior Task Force, and his advice on understanding the differences between the Navy, Army, and VA systems.

 

(1:23:33) - Career and Dedication in the Navy

Dr. Nathan emphasizes the need for excellence, shares a story of caring for an officer's wife that made a lasting impact, and advises listeners to strive for their best.

 

Take Home Messages:

  1. Leading the Navy Medical Corps comes with a variety of challenges, such as navigating the cultural differences between the Navy, Army, Air Force, and Marines. It's important to foster a harmonious culture and unified, cohesive standards of patient care.
  • Serving in the military is more than just a job, it's a lifestyle that comes with responsibilities and privileges. The rank you hold comes with the expectation to respect and care for those under your command.
  • The Navy plays a crucial role in patrolling the seaways and providing aid at a moment's notice, demonstrating their dedication to service.
  • Lessons learned from military service can be extremely valuable in civilian roles, such as leading a large hospital system.
  • The congressionally chartered Recovering Warrior Task Force played a significant role in supporting Wounded Warriors and their families, highlighting the importance of coordination and integrated care systems.
  • It's essential to remember and memorialize the knowledge gained from wartime experiences to ensure that it doesn't evaporate and can be used for future reference.
  • A leader should always be prepared to face challenges, be it reducing purchase care costs or integrating diverse cultural teams. It's important to adopt strategies that benefit the team and the patients.
  • Serving in the military during war times is demanding and can take a toll on individuals. It's vital to ensure that servicemen and servicewomen are provided with the necessary support and care to recover and refresh.
  • Military medicine requires constant learning and adaptability, given the different operational and strategic assignments that one may have to take on.
  • Never take privileges for granted, and always strive to do your best, whether in the military or civilian life. Every role carries a responsibility that must be upheld.
  • Episode Keywords:

    Military Medicine, Leadership Lessons, Marine Corps, Cold War, Bridgeport, California, USS Blue Ridge, USS Saipan, Navy Medical Corps, Cultural Differences, Healthcare, Joint Commission Survey, Defense Health Agency, Recovering Warrior Task Force, Wounded Warriors, Harvard University, Advanced Leadership Initiative, Command, Rank, Accountability, Responsibility, Vaccine Hesitancy, Memorializing Experiences, Champions, Reserve Force, Culture Wars, Unified Standards, Patient Care, Purchase Care Costs, Redundancies, One Best Standard, Distributed Virtual Care, Operational Risk Management, Social Impact, Disparities, Head of Line Privileges, Credibility, Executive Medicine, Positive Impact

     

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