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New York Times bestselling author Ryan Holiday returns to From the Green Notebook for his third conversation with Joe—this time diving into the themes of his latest and final book in the Stoic Virtues series, Wisdom Takes Work. 

In this wide-ranging conversation, Ryan and Joe discuss the importance of curiosity, humility, and deep reflection in a world where shortcuts and surface-level thinking often dominate. They explore how writing, reading, and journaling serve as tools for developing wisdom—and how, for both leaders and creators, clarity of thought begins with clarity on paper.

Listeners will gain insights into Ryan’s approach to writing books, the power of writing as intellectual accountability, and what he’s learned from studying figures like Montaigne, Lincoln, and even Elon Musk. Along the way, Ryan opens up about his own evolution as a writer, the dangers of intellectual arrogance, and why the pursuit of wisdom is a lifelong endeavor.

In this episode, Joe and Ryan explore:

• Why wisdom isn’t something you have but something you earn through continuous effort
• How writing forces clarity, accountability, and humility in thinking
• The danger of “bad bricks” in our belief systems—and how to guard against misinformation
• Why note-taking and reflection are a form of “time travel” that benefit your future self
• How curiosity and skepticism help protect us from manipulation in an AI-driven world
• The difference between intelligence and wisdom—and why power without self-awareness can be destructive
• Why Ben Franklin remains a model of intellectual and social intelligence

Whether you’re leading a team, writing your next book, or simply trying to think more clearly, this episode offers a masterclass in slowing down, asking better questions, and doing the hard work of becoming wiser.

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This is the longest episode ever of From the Green Notebook—and for good reason. Joe brings you a special LANDEURO Talks edition of the podcast, recorded at AUSA’s inaugural LANDEURO conference in Germany back in July.

While at LANDEURO, Joe participated in both the Generation Next Forum and the Leadership Forum, hosted by the AUSA Center for Leadership. These gatherings were designed to educate, inspire, and connect leaders across the Army, NATO, and European partners. During the conference, Joe also caught up with three impressive leaders for one-on-one conversations about community, leadership, and the pivotal moments that shape a career.

In this episode, Joe highlights three powerful conversations with leaders whose stories capture the spirit of growth and connection at the heart of LANDEURO.

• LTG (Ret.) Leslie Smith on how losing his father as a child shaped his life, and how the “village” of family and community taught him the importance of the people we surround ourselves with.
• CSM Phil Blaisdell (44: 06), whose decades of service provide timeless lessons on leadership from the perspective of a noncommissioned officer.
• Sarah Draper (01:26), former Army officer and retired FBI Special Agent, who joins Joe for a fireside chat about career turning points, resilience, and leading through transition.

Together, these stories remind us that leadership is not about titles or positions—it’s about people, connection, and the communities that shape us.

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Dr. Galena Rhoades, coauthor of Fighting For Your Marriage, returns to From the Green Notebook to talk with Joe about the strain that deployments, training, and time apart place on military marriages—and how couples can stay connected through it.

Drawing on years of research and her work helping couples strengthen relationships, Galena explains why separation creates unique challenges, how communication often falls into “just logistics,” and what it takes to keep connection alive across distance. Together, she and Joe unpack lessons that every military family can use—lessons Joe wishes he had known during the nearly five years he spent away from home over his career.

In this episode, Joe and Galena explore:

• How to keep communication from becoming only about schedules and logistics
• Why friendship talk, support talk, and even conflict talk are essential during separation
• The “alternate universe” of deployment, and how to bridge that gap with your partner at home
• The emotional boundaries that can erode if couples aren’t intentional about protecting them
• Why reintegration isn’t about picking up where you left off, but about building a new relationship on the same foundation

Whether you’re facing your first deployment or your fifth, these insights will help you and your partner navigate the hard parts of separation and come back together with greater strength and understanding.

Galena K. Rhoades, Ph.D., is a research professor and the director of the Institute for Relationship Science in the Department of Psychology at the University of Denver. Her research focuses on romantic relationship formation processes, such as dating and living together, and predictors of relationship success. She also conducts studies on the effectiveness of relationship interventions offered by community organizations across the United States. She has more than 140 publications in these areas. 

Dr. Rhoades founded a nonprofit in Denver called Thriving Families. This organization offers MotherWise, a relationship education program for women during pregnancy and postpartum, as well as mental health services for families. Dr. Rhoades is also a practicing clinical psychologist. In her private practice, she primarily sees couples and families.

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In this special Notebook Notes episode, Joe sits down with Sergeant Major Urzua and Sergeant Major Brady to discuss the Army Directive 2025-18, with a guest appearance from Sergeant Major of the Army Michael Weimer.

• The intent behind the new Army directive and what it means for Soldiers and leaders
• Why appearance reflects discipline, professionalism, and Army values
• How commanders and NCOs are empowered to enforce standards
• Clarifications on what’s included—and not included—in this directive
• Timelines for implementation
• Broader leadership insights from SMA Weimer on professionalism, trust, and readiness
• Why SMA Weimer doesn't wear Army PT shorts (for now)

Click here to read AD 2025-18 so you can stay informed. 

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Author and researcher Dr. Colin Fisher joins Joe to unpack the invisible forces that shape teams—and why leaders ignore them at their own risk.

From his book The Collective Edge: Unlocking the Secret Power of Groups Dr. Fisher shows how group dynamics are always at play, whether in a locker room, a boardroom, or on the battlefield. Together, he and Joe explore why the myth of the lone genius persists, why synergy is real but rare, and how leaders can deliberately build trust, structure, and norms that drive high-performing teams.

In this episode, Joe and Colin explore:

• Why the Sorting Hat—not Voldemort—might be the real villain of Harry Potter
• How the “lone genius” narrative hides the reality of collaboration behind breakthroughs
• What synergy really means and why structure—not speeches—is the leader’s most powerful tool
• The difference between relational trust and task-based trust, and why the latter makes teams excel
• How group norms emerge, and why they can drive both excellence and dysfunction
• Why psychological safety is about the freedom to disagree, not surface-level harmony
• How power changes leaders’ relationships with others—and why who you surround yourself with matters

Whether you’re leading a squad, running a company, or just trying to understand the groups you’re part of, this episode will change how you see teamwork—and give you tools to lead with intention.

Since his days as a professional jazz trumpet player, Dr. Colin M. Fisher has been fascinated by group dynamics. As Associate Professor of Organizations and Innovation at University College London’s School of Management, Colin’s research has uncovered the hidden processes of helping groups and teams in situations requiring creativity, improvisation, and complex decision-making. He has written about group dynamics for both popular science and management audiences, and his work has been profiled in prominent media outlets such as BBC, Forbes, NPR, and The Times. Originally from Redmond, Washington, he now lives in North London with his wife and two children.

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Military strategist and author George M. Dougherty joins Joe to unpack how robotics, AI, and precision weaponry are reshaping the future of warfare—and what history can teach us about navigating this transformation.

From his book Beast in the Machine, George traces the roots of military robotics back over a century and shows how concepts like remote-controlled systems and autonomous weapons aren’t new at all—they’ve simply advanced with technology. Together, he and Joe explore the implications of universal precision, weapon–target asymmetry, and what it means for maneuver warfare in an era where small drones can neutralize tanks.

In this episode, Joe and George explore:

• Why today’s robotics and AI revolution mirrors the onset of mechanization in World War I
• How “universal precision” is disrupting maneuver warfare and creating a new no man’s land
• The concept of weapon–target asymmetry: why cheap drones can outmatch billion-dollar platforms
• The role of networks, ISR, and electromagnetic warfare in shaping the kill chain
• Historical lessons—from Tesla’s 1898 robot to Kursk’s remote-controlled vehicles—that frame today’s challenges
• The ethical and societal stakes of democratizing lethal technology
• Why leaders must avoid over-empowering AI and remain smarter than the algorithms they use

Whether you’re a junior officer rethinking tactics or a senior strategist wrestling with AI’s role in warfare, this episode offers a sobering yet hopeful look at how leaders can outthink adversaries and shape the future fight.

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Red Threadx is a team of industry leaders and veterans. As a follow-on to the conversation, Joe Byerly will join George Dougherty and a panel of experts at the Red Thread House during the AUSA Annual Meeting in Washington, D.C. on 14 October 2025. The invitation-only event will explore Beast in the Machine and the ethics of killing in war, alongside critical topics such as artificial intelligence, contested logistics, layered protection, and 21st-century command and control. To learn more about attending, contact [email protected]

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Army officer and Harvard-trained scholar Laura Weimer joins Joe to unpack leader identity—how it’s formed, why it matters, and what happens when we never stop to question it.

From leading Soldiers in the field to earning a PhD in organizational behavior at Harvard Business School, Laura has navigated both the operational Army and academia. Along the way, she’s learned that one of the most important questions a leader can ask is: Do I want to do this job—or do I just want to be selected for it?

In this candid conversation, Laura and Joe explore how ego, purpose, and values shape career decisions. They share how small changes—like moving one swim lane over—can dramatically improve fit and fulfillment, and why leaders must help their subordinates figure this out before life forces the question.

In this episode, we explore:

• Why separating ego from purpose is critical in career decision-making
• The “swim lane” approach to finding a better fit without leaving the Army
• How coaching and reflection can clarify your leader identity
• Practical exercises for uncovering your values and reframing your work
• Why helping others find the right role strengthens the whole organization

Whether you’re a junior leader at a crossroads or a senior officer mentoring the next generation, this episode offers tools and hard-earned wisdom for building a leader identity that lasts beyond any rank or title.

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Author Roland Allen joins Joe for a deep-dive into his book, The Notebook: A History of Thinking on Paper, and the surprising legacy of one of humanity’s most powerful tools: the humble notebook.

Whether it’s a green notebook in your cargo pocket, Leonardo da Vinci’s sketches, or a modern writer’s Moleskine, notebooks have shaped how people think, learn, and lead for centuries. In this fascinating conversation, Roland shares how these simple collections of thoughts, drawings, and quotes—what he calls “the first mixtape”—have been central to creativity, memory, and meaning throughout history.

Whether you're a leader, writer, soldier, or student, this episode will inspire you to pick up a pen and rediscover the power of thinking on paper.

In this episode, we explore:

• How a personal diary led Roland to uncover the global story of notebooks and their impact on civilization
• The Zibaldoni: a 14th-century Florentine notebook tradition that sparked the birth of modern literature
• Why Leonardo da Vinci never left home without his notebook—and how it supercharged his creativity across disciplines
• How Isaac Newton rewrote his own history by editing his notebooks
• The power of the commonplace book: a forgotten practice that shaped minds from Shakespeare to modern military leaders
• How notebooks create lasting knowledge—from 19th-century whalers to 21st-century climate scientists
• The quirky and wildly different notebook habits of Agatha Christie, Virginia Woolf, and Roland himself
• Why writing by hand helps us remember more, make better decisions, and build resilience through tough times
• Joe’s reflections on keeping a green notebook in combat and why he now journals with his future self in mind

Whether you use a green notebook, a Moleskine, or a legal pad, this episode will change the way you think about what it means to write—and why it matters.

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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and bestselling author Matt Richtel joins Joe for a powerful conversation about his new book, How We Grow Up: Understanding Adolescence.

Blending neuroscience, history, and real-life stories from teens and families across the country, Matt offers a transformative understanding of adolescence—not as a problem to fix, but as a critical phase of growth. Whether you’re a parent, military leader, coach, or mentor, this conversation is packed with insight on how to support young people as they step into the most intense learning period of their lives.

In this episode, we explore:

• Why adolescence isn’t just a set of teenage years—but a biologically driven journey of self-discovery
• How to understand risk-taking, rebellion, and boundary-pushing not as defiance, but as testing for survival
• The powerful metaphor of adolescents as “castaways,” and why we must let them leave the shore to grow
• How The Odyssey offers a timeless framework for understanding the adolescent hero’s journey
• What neuroscience teaches us about reward sensitivity, risk tolerance, and the adolescent brain
• Why digital life isn’t inherently bad—but what it displaces can harm growth and mental health
• How to lead, parent, and mentor with empathy—by not taking rebellion or distance personally

Whether you’re leading young soldiers, raising kids, or reflecting on your own adolescent journey, this episode delivers timeless wisdom and practical tools for helping the next generation grow up well.

Matt Richtel is a Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times journalist and bestselling writer of mysteries and thrillers. His books are fast-paced, character-centered stories in which things are not always as they seem. The backdrop for the books is the modern world. Technology is everywhere. Everything moves at lightning speed, from conspiracy, to love, business, and violence. Technology is our slave. Or has it become our dark master?

The books relate to Matt's journalism. He won the Pulitzer Prize in 2010 for a series of stories on distracted driving. The next year, he wrote an acclaimed series for the New York Times called "Your Brain On Computers" exploring how heavy technology use impacts our behavior and our brains.

Matt lives with his family in San Francisco. He writes from an office with a window that looks onto the former house of baseball legend Willie Mays. He -- Matt, not Willie -- is an avid tennis player, takes pride in making guacamole and coffee, and writes the occasional song.

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Retired Marine Raider and author John Dailey joins the podcast to discuss his memoir, Tough Rugged Bastards, and the hard-earned lessons from a lifetime in Marine special operations.

In this episode, Joe and John explore:

• The story behind the founding of Marine Special Operations—and what it took to prove they belonged
• Why breath work, meditation, and reading became essential tools for combat and recovery
• The power of broad commander's intent—and how trust enables bottom-up innovation
• How journaling and writing helped John process his experiences and reconnect with identity post-service
• Why being yourself is a leadership superpower—and how John learned to take off the many "coats" he wore in uniform
• What it means to “do windows”—and why no task is ever beneath the leader

John Dailey left his home in West Virginia at seventeen to join the Marines, which led to a career of over twenty years. As a Platoon Sergeant in the Marine Corps’ 1st Force Reconnaissance Company on deployment in Australia on Sep. 11th, 2001, he and his men soon found themselves in Afghanistan battling the Taliban. In 2003 he was selected to serve as a team leader in the first Marine Corps unit assigned to U.S. Special Operations Command —Detachment-1. Det -1’s 2004 Iraq deployment solidified the Marines’ place in special operations and led to the formation of the Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC). John received his MFA in creative writing from the University of North Carolina - Wilmington in 2018. John continues to train Marine Raiders, and he provides leadership training and performance coaching through his company, Walking Point LLC. He lives in Hubert, North Carolina with his wife, Tracy. 

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