In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Liz Gulliver—co-founder of Kunik, a community-driven platform helping companies retain and engage working parents and caregivers. Drawing on her own experience as a working parent in high-pressure corporate environments, Liz has built a business around rethinking how organizations approach flexibility, culture, and belonging.

Through candid stories and data-backed insights, Liz challenges leaders to look beyond surface-level benefits and ask deeper questions about what support really means—and why it matters for performance, retention, and diversity.

You’ll come away with a sharper lens on how care responsibilities intersect with leadership, and practical ways to create a workplace where everyone can thrive.

You’ll Hear:

• The Myth of “One-Size-Fits-All” Benefits – Why cookie-cutter policies fail to meet real employee needs
• Belonging is Performance Infrastructure – How inclusive cultures directly fuel productivity and retention
• From Perk to Priority – Why supporting caregivers should sit at the heart of your talent strategy, not the edges
• Leaders as Culture Shapers – How everyday actions from managers set the tone for inclusion
• Story as a Bridge – Why sharing lived experiences around caregiving can dissolve stigma and build trust

Whether you’re a senior leader, HR professional, or someone balancing work and caregiving yourself, this conversation offers insight into designing workplaces for the realities of modern life.

Resources: 

Liz on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-gulliver/
Kunik web site: www.getkunik.com

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