In this episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Evante Daniels—founder of Seeqer and originator of “cultural physics,” a groundbreaking framework for understanding how shared beliefs and narratives shape organizations. Evante works with schools, governments, and businesses to assess and strengthen what he calls “cultural resilience”—an organization’s ability to withstand and adapt to shifting cultural forces.

From his earliest soundboard gig at a 6,500-person Black church in Atlanta to mapping cultural “levees” that can either guide or erode business performance, Evante weaves together metaphor, measurement, and meaning. His story is a masterclass in combining systems thinking with deep human insight.

You’ll hear:

• What cultural physics is—and how it helps leaders understand what’s really happening beneath the surface
• Why culture is like a river, and organizations are like levees
• The hidden costs of neglecting culture until a crisis hits
• What it takes to build culturally resilient organizations in a world of constant change
• Why succession planning is a cultural issue, not just a leadership one
• How storytelling engages the nervous system before the brain—and why that matters for communication

Whether you’re navigating generational divides, trying to align teams, or leading cultural transformation, this episode will give you a powerful new lens on how stories, structures, and systems interact.

🔗 Resources ~

Evante's company website: https://seeqer.co
Evante’s Substack: https://evantedaniels.substack.com/
Connect with Evante on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evantedaniels/

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